Range report 280 Rem and 270 Wby

[Greg Nolan]

I took the 280 and the 270Wby to the range and got sighted in at 200 yds. The 280 is a 2 shot groiup because I'm down to 25 rds. of the orange tipped AccuBond seconds. I have some firsts but they shoot about 4.5" higher. I like the seconds and I'll persue getting more. Here are the 200 yd targets.View attachment 280 Rem. & 270 Wby 200 yds 001.JPG
The 280 is pretty accurate and I love shooting it. I almost forgot how nice a non Ultra Mag felt. The 270 shot nice also but I may play with the OAL and see if I can tighten the group up a bit. They are both lethal to 400 yds as is.

 

[DrMike]

Those groups are more than adequate for blacktail. You're in great shape. I would, however, make up some more 280 ammunition if possible.

 

[Greg Nolan]

I'm trying to find some 160 gr. 7mm orange tip AccuBond seconds to reload right now. They group 4.5 " lower than the white tip AccuBond firsts. They actually load to different overall lengths using the exact same seating die. There has to be a difference in the bullet shape. There is no cannilure on the orange tips in the 7mm unlike the orangetip .308 180gr. Accubonds but they sure shoot differently.
I like to have fifty of what I use when I travel far to hunt in case of a scope issue. It''s easy to burn 20 rounds trying to get it back on at 200.
Greg

 

[DrMike]

I understand, Greg. Good luck finding the particular bullets. Many people do not pay attention to lot numbers, but lot-to-lot variation on any component can dramatically affect accuracy. You experience bears this out in rather dramatic fashion.

 

[JD338]

Greg,

Looks like you are there.

Good luck with the Orange tipped seconds.


JD338

 

[mcseal2]

Nice groups, you should be ready. A good shooting 280 should let you save the barrel life of the 7RUM for when you really need the extra punch.

I like lighter kicking rifles. I went from shooting everything with a 300WM to using primarily 204 Ruger thru 6mm Rem rounds for yotes and 264WM thru 7mm RM for deer. I have found that a 140gr AccuBond at 3000fps is about the recoil level I can shoot real well in a light rifle. Anything past that and I start wanting a break for load development or long range sessions. The 264,270 win and 270WSM have become real favorites with the 140gr bullets. Deer don't seem to stop the accubonds very often either, even at tough angles.

Good luck on your hunt.

 

[Greg Nolan]

I feel confident with the calibers now and they shoot with authority for even mule deer. It was kind of nice not having the scope kiss my eye. It does that from time to time just to let me know what will happen if I get even a little bit sloppy in my hold.
The 7mm RUM was whimpering in the corner when I left for the range. I don't think it likes the 280. :evil:

 

[Richracer1]

Hey Greg, it's your friendly bullet supplier. I have 4 bags of the 160AB "orange" tipped, no cannelure 2nds. How about $60 shipped? All of my loads using the 160AB are with the white tipped

 

[Greg Nolan]

SPF :mrgreen:

 

[JD338]

Hey Greg, it's your friendly bullet supplier. I have 4 bags of the 160AB "orange" tipped, no cannelure 2nds. How about $60 shipped? All of my loads using the 160AB are with the white tipped

Give that man a cigar!
Nicely done Rich. :mrgreen:

JD338

 

[DrMike]

Now that was quick. Greg, you done good.

 

[SJB358]

Greg, I am glad I am not the only one who noticed that with the red/orange tipped bullets compared to the white tipped 1sts...

http://noslerreloading.com/phpBB2/viewt ... ed+tipped+

Glad you were able to score some bullets buddy.

 

[Greg Nolan]

It was seating to a different depth as if the whole bullet shape was different. In the the .308 caliber I thought it was the cannalure that was changing the shape but there is non on the 7mm. The bullet is shaped differently. maybe a co-incedence but the orange tips shop better in every caliber I tried them in. Since they are over runs of factory ammo orders I wonder if Nosler uses different dies or tollerances in the forming of the AccuBond bullet. In this case the white tip shot 4.5 inches higher consistantly with everything identical. I did find a primer difference in part of the batch but I had reloaded most of the orange and the white bullets myself so at least half of the loads were identical. I guess that's why they cost less.
Greg

 

[Oldtrader3]

My guess is that the customer asks Nosler for what ever Quality Plan and Process Control Capability (CpK) that they want to pay Nosler for bullets. The customer writes the spec for the product and Nosler validates that level of quality and sells them whatever they are willing ot pay for in terms of ogive radius, shape, bullet length and weight control. Selling OEM is usually to specification and bid.

 

[SJB358]

It was seating to a different depth as if the whole bullet shape was different. In the the .308 caliber I thought it was the cannalure that was changing the shape but there is non on the 7mm. The bullet is shaped differently. maybe a co-incedence but the orange tips shop better in every caliber I tried them in. Since they are over runs of factory ammo orders I wonder if Nosler uses different dies or tollerances in the forming of the AccuBond bullet. In this case the white tip shot 4.5 inches higher consistantly with everything identical. I did find a primer difference in part of the batch but I had reloaded most of the orange and the white bullets myself so at least half of the loads were identical. I guess that's why they cost less.
Greg

It required a whole load rework for me Greg. Either way, now I know, but when you lose accuracy, it is sometimes hard to pin point what happened and it ended up being the bullet. Those Red Tipped 160's were really accurate though.. Wished I would have bought a 1000 of them had I known......

 

[Richracer1]

Hey Greg, it's your friendly bullet supplier. I have 4 bags of the 160AB "orange" tipped, no cannelure 2nds. How about $60 shipped? All of my loads using the 160AB are with the white tipped

Give that man a cigar!
Nicely done Rich. :mrgreen:

JD338

I hooked him up with 9 bags of orange tipped 180ABs last week. All of my AccuBond loads use the white tipped versions.