Since my two main competition guns are being worked on I had an offer to use a bone stock savage f class in the Montana state championships mid range f class. this is chambered in 6.5-284 and has a 5.5-22 nightforce on it. I Will be using a front rest this time instead of a bipod another donation. kind of curious as to how this ends up doing. not a big f class fan but at least its competition should be fun.
savage fans?
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They make accurate rifles when they are screwed together well. I don't really go out of my way to own them anymore, but I had a 22-250 Savage for a long time and it was accurate with everything and was a great rifle. It was just a little too big for me to carry around with a 26" heavy barrel.
rjm158
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I have a Model 16 in 325 WSM that has proven to be accurate with anything that I put down the barrel.
I also have an old Model 340 in 225 Winchester that makes itty bitty groups if I do my part.
A model 10 FP in 260 Rem gave me the best group I've ever shot with a rifle, .123 at 100 using a 120 gr Matchking handload.
Ron
I also have an old Model 340 in 225 Winchester that makes itty bitty groups if I do my part.
A model 10 FP in 260 Rem gave me the best group I've ever shot with a rifle, .123 at 100 using a 120 gr Matchking handload.
Ron
DrMike
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We're pulling for you to have success in the f-class. Savage rifles can be extremely accurate. Interestingly, I've never owned a Savage, but it wasn't because of a bias against them; it just hasn't happened. I've shot quite a few, however, and all shot anywhere from acceptably to superb. I am impressed with their general accuracy.
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About five years ago I got one of Savage's Package rifles, a 308 Win with an Accutrigger and a entry-level scope on a hardwood stock. With handloads it is an extremely accurate rifle shooting 165gn Sierra or Hornady boat tails. This rifle would be fine for any white tail / mule deer hunt due to its accuracy and easy recoil. Now that the new stocks are available on some Savage models, I can only see those rifles being even more accurate. They're selling some models with a ProStaff BDC scope, which is certainly a step up from the 8-point Simmons scopes of several years ago.
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Jeff,
I hear the Savage F class is a shooter. Good luck in the F class match.
JD338
I hear the Savage F class is a shooter. Good luck in the F class match.
JD338
Guy Miner
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A buddy of mine, and neighbor, is quite the Savage nut, and a member of "Team Savage." He's gone with them, shooting F-class competition in several different countries with factory Savage rifles. The team, and my friend, have done really well, often beating competitors with top-dollar custom made rifles. He shoots both a .308 and the 6.5-284 in competition. If memory serves, he ran a 6mmBR for a time as well.
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Savage has taken the input from competition shooters and built competitive task specific rifles and kept the price point to accessible to most. this does two things 1gets more people interested in the shooting sports and 2 keeps savage coming up with better products. I also think there bringing out other than standard chamberings is well played on their part. a accurate magazine Fed 338 lapua for 1310 dollars is brilliant in my opinion. I don't see Remington stepping up with anything new these days.
Guy Miner
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Agree on all points!
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I love my savages
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Guy Miner
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What is High Power? EGads Man! :grin:
Link: http://www.nrahq.org/compete/highpower.asp
Quote from the NRA site:
Courses of Fire
There are 4 strings of fire which are the basic building blocks of any NRA high power rifle course of fire or tournament. These are:
1. Slow Fire, standing - 10 rounds at 200 yards in 10 minutes.
2. Rapid Fire, sitting or kneeling - 10 rounds at 200 yards in 60 seconds.
3. Rapid Fire, 10 rounds prone - 300 yards in 70 seconds.
4. Slow Fire, 10 rounds prone - 500 or 600 yards in 10 minutes.
That course of fire is very familiar to Marines, as it's not much different from "our" standard annual qualification course with the M-16.
When you hear that someone is shooting at Camp Perry for the National Championships, they're shooting High Power.
F-Class is a subset of NRA Highpower shooting - there are many High Power matches that are only prone, at 300, 500, 600 or up to 1,000 yards. F-Class originated up in Canada as a way to let shooters who could no longer physically sling up and shoot conventional prone, continue to compete. It's since grown into quite a popular version of NRA High Power shooting. At my local club, there has been a reversal in the past 10 years. It used to be mostly conventional prone shooters at a match, with very few for the new F-Class. Now it's mostly F-Class shooters who show up on the line, with very few conventional sling shooters. I'm a holdover, preferring to shoot from the sling.
Right now, my .308 isn't set up with sights, but once I had a fine Model 70 match rifle set up with sights, for NRA High Power competition.
Easiest rifle to get into High Power with is to use one of the many AR-15's - some of which are built specifically for High Power. Those are used in "Service Rifle" while I kind of like the bolt action "match rifle" category.
There ya go - a real short intro to "High Power."
Guy
Link: http://www.nrahq.org/compete/highpower.asp
Quote from the NRA site:
Courses of Fire
There are 4 strings of fire which are the basic building blocks of any NRA high power rifle course of fire or tournament. These are:
1. Slow Fire, standing - 10 rounds at 200 yards in 10 minutes.
2. Rapid Fire, sitting or kneeling - 10 rounds at 200 yards in 60 seconds.
3. Rapid Fire, 10 rounds prone - 300 yards in 70 seconds.
4. Slow Fire, 10 rounds prone - 500 or 600 yards in 10 minutes.
That course of fire is very familiar to Marines, as it's not much different from "our" standard annual qualification course with the M-16.
When you hear that someone is shooting at Camp Perry for the National Championships, they're shooting High Power.
F-Class is a subset of NRA Highpower shooting - there are many High Power matches that are only prone, at 300, 500, 600 or up to 1,000 yards. F-Class originated up in Canada as a way to let shooters who could no longer physically sling up and shoot conventional prone, continue to compete. It's since grown into quite a popular version of NRA High Power shooting. At my local club, there has been a reversal in the past 10 years. It used to be mostly conventional prone shooters at a match, with very few for the new F-Class. Now it's mostly F-Class shooters who show up on the line, with very few conventional sling shooters. I'm a holdover, preferring to shoot from the sling.
Right now, my .308 isn't set up with sights, but once I had a fine Model 70 match rifle set up with sights, for NRA High Power competition.
Easiest rifle to get into High Power with is to use one of the many AR-15's - some of which are built specifically for High Power. Those are used in "Service Rifle" while I kind of like the bolt action "match rifle" category.
There ya go - a real short intro to "High Power."
Guy
Guy Miner
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High Power:
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Yeah what guy said, I am going to build a bolt gun and use that. most matches here are 600 yard prone. guy since you have been doing this awhile what stock works the best for that I was looking at another A5 McMillan would that work alright? Would like to keep the platform the same if possible. I shot a round on Saturday.with my tools and liked it. I think that Will be more conducive to my shooting improvement than f class. across the course especially.
Guy Miner
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Across the course is a hoot. My club doesn't do a lot of those matches, which is a shame really. They're a lot of fun.
I've never tried the A5 in a match. It sure looks like it would work well. There are some specific prone stocks available, but they don't always work out real well for standing or sitting.
My old Winchester had a stock with an adjustable Length of Pull - that was real nice, and an adjustable cheekpiece would have been good too.
These days I'm just using the M40A1-3 McMillan stock on my "Green Machine" and it's okay - but not the best for prone. A little higher comb would help. Might just build that up myself. Am feeling real stingy about rifle modifications anymore for some reason, not wanting to spend the money to have an adjustable comb built in - which can be done.
Was smart when I ordered the stock from McMillan though - I specified it at 14.5" LOP, which is where I always had my match rifle stock set for prone events. That's worked out well, and McMillan will also build most of their "tactical" or match stocks with the forend rail for a handstop. Good stuff there.
Guy
I've never tried the A5 in a match. It sure looks like it would work well. There are some specific prone stocks available, but they don't always work out real well for standing or sitting.
My old Winchester had a stock with an adjustable Length of Pull - that was real nice, and an adjustable cheekpiece would have been good too.
These days I'm just using the M40A1-3 McMillan stock on my "Green Machine" and it's okay - but not the best for prone. A little higher comb would help. Might just build that up myself. Am feeling real stingy about rifle modifications anymore for some reason, not wanting to spend the money to have an adjustable comb built in - which can be done.
Was smart when I ordered the stock from McMillan though - I specified it at 14.5" LOP, which is where I always had my match rifle stock set for prone events. That's worked out well, and McMillan will also build most of their "tactical" or match stocks with the forend rail for a handstop. Good stuff there.
Guy
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Scott that's the beauty of the 308 its legal in any kind of match you can enter with a rifle. and as accurate as any at the 600 yard Mark. there is a guy here who I think is in his mid seventies retired marine sniper who still whips up on guys quite often. there are only three guys that have cleaned the 600 yard prone on our notoriously. tricky range he is one of them. that's twenty rounds in the ten ring with iron sights and a sling. that is impressive to me.
