Should I? Hmmmm.

Ridge_Runner":1pntvoua said:
Go for it, and then tells us how it feels to shoot something that can kick the lard out of momma's bisquits!
RR

Too funny...that is an expression I haven't heard before, and I have heard lots of good ones from the years I spent working in Arkansas.
 
FOTIS":1u3b53iu said:
Just trying to figure out how practical this is. Got a 257 270 30-378 378 416. All beez. Will I ever use it?

How can it be any less practical than a .416 WBY? :lol: All things considered you would be one rifle closer to having the complete set of weatherby cartridges 8) 8)
 
All things considered you would be one rifle closer to having the complete set of weatherby cartridges

Excellent point that has been overlooked heretofore.
 
bbearhntr":1vgkpdch said:
FOTIS":1vgkpdch said:
Just trying to figure out how practical this is. Got a 257 270 30-378 378 416. All beez. Will I ever use it?

How can it be any less practical than a .416 WBY? :lol: All things considered you would be one rifle closer to having the complete set of weatherby cartridges 8) 8)

Why are you confusing the issue with Facts????????????????/ :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
Well i have some sad news. I missed out on that one! You snooze you loose.

But I found another...not that I am looking! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Original Japan made custom with Pendelton brake. Like new!

BACK TO PONDERING!

I can launch these

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like so



Cartridge : .460 Weath. Mag.
Bullet : .458, 300, Barnes 'TSX' FB 45814
Useable Case Capaci: 130.759 grain H2O = 8.490 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.750 inch = 95.25 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 109 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

88 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 104.3 131.9 8.54 3346 99.3 64000 9263 1.009 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 107.3 136.9 8.87 3339 96.2 64000 9521 1.018 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 105.8 131.7 8.53 3331 99.4 64000 9108 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 106.0 131.9 8.55 3329 99.4 64000 9094 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 104.2 121.5 7.88 3319 100.0 64000 8605 1.010 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 109.0 134.2 8.70 3310 98.2 61924 9404 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 104.4 134.0 8.68 3309 96.1 64000 9366 1.030 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 97.4 128.1 8.30 3303 99.9 64000 8829 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 103.5 124.7 8.08 3303 99.5 64000 8923 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 103.0 124.1 8.04 3302 99.2 64000 8964 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 103.0 124.1 8.04 3302 99.2 64000 8964 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 103.0 124.1 8.04 3302 99.2 64000 8964 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 94.9 123.1 7.98 3301 100.0 64000 8531 1.027 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 105.1 128.0 8.30 3299 99.8 64000 8813 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 103.1 116.1 7.52 3293 100.0 64000 8094 1.030 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 107.4 128.1 8.30 3290 99.7 64000 8728 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 104.9 124.4 8.06 3282 99.4 64000 8630 1.019 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 107.3 126.5 8.20 3281 99.7 64000 8724 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 104.0 128.1 8.30 3280 98.2 64000 8957 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 99.8 124.0 8.03 3272 100.0 64000 8274 1.044 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 100.2 124.8 8.08 3272 99.4 64000 8673 1.031 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 100.2 128.7 8.34 3269 98.2 64000 8838 1.030 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 96.7 121.6 7.88 3266 99.9 64000 8474 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 94.0 121.3 7.86 3265 99.9 64000 8456 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 94.8 122.9 7.96 3263 100.0 64000 8488 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 105.6 123.2 7.98 3262 100.0 64000 8218 1.025 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0621 104.0 121.9 7.90 3256 99.9 64000 8399 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 95.7 116.0 7.52 3256 99.9 64000 8370 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 102.5 116.8 7.57 3254 100.0 64000 7946 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 105.4 122.9 7.96 3252 99.0 64000 8588 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 105.0 122.9 7.96 3252 99.0 64000 8588 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 98.3 127.5 8.26 3251 99.4 64000 8432 1.032 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 90.4 118.9 7.70 3249 100.0 64000 8088 1.034 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 102.4 124.8 8.09 3247 100.0 64000 8205 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 100.2 118.8 7.70 3247 100.0 64000 8071 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10 90.1 116.0 7.52 3247 100.0 64000 8060 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 109.0 122.8 7.96 3246 100.0 61941 8243 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 90.0 116.2 7.53 3245 100.0 64000 8049 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 106.2 120.9 7.83 3245 99.2 64000 8443 1.032 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 96.4 118.7 7.69 3243 99.9 64000 8354 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 92.4 119.5 7.74 3241 100.0 64000 8165 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 90.1 112.1 7.27 3241 100.0 64000 7844 1.031 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 95.8 112.1 7.27 3241 100.0 64000 7844 1.031 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 102.6 119.2 7.73 3232 99.9 64000 8245 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 93.4 120.8 7.83 3229 100.0 64000 8073 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 108.7 128.7 8.34 3227 95.3 64000 8744 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 105.3 128.7 8.34 3226 95.3 64000 8737 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0832 94.4 120.0 7.78 3224 100.0 64000 7599 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 108.4 125.6 8.14 3223 99.9 64000 8131 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 98.7 113.0 7.32 3220 100.0 64000 7939 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 109.0 130.7 8.47 3217 95.9 56573 9177 1.068
Accurate 2230 91.8 118.6 7.69 3216 100.0 64000 7950 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 109.0 119.1 7.72 3211 100.0 63486 7547 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 109.0 130.0 8.42 3209 97.4 55558 9095 1.084
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 109.0 130.0 8.42 3208 97.4 55503 9090 1.084
ADI AR 2210 91.1 113.3 7.34 3208 100.0 64000 7928 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 95.5 117.4 7.61 3203 100.0 64000 7639 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0651 109.0 128.5 8.33 3201 97.0 61057 8671 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 109.0 135.7 8.79 3201 95.3 55343 9240 1.083
Lovex-S0601 99.6 116.9 7.57 3200 99.4 64000 8077 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 109.0 135.7 8.79 3200 92.2 58848 9022 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0733 91.3 117.2 7.59 3198 99.9 64000 7881 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0731 91.4 117.4 7.60 3198 99.8 64000 7939 1.039 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 96.9 115.0 7.45 3198 100.0 64000 7882 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 93.3 106.1 6.88 3188 100.0 64000 7383 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 98.9 118.0 7.64 3188 99.6 64000 7957 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 98.0 118.1 7.65 3180 99.5 64000 7916 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 94.8 110.6 7.17 3175 100.0 64000 7297 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0701 109.0 130.0 8.42 3174 95.2 58214 8799 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335 100.0 117.9 7.64 3166 100.0 64000 7438 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 106.1 132.0 8.56 3161 94.9 64000 8172 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 109.0 130.7 8.47 3154 99.2 49571 8997 1.130
Vihtavuori N133 102.0 112.5 7.29 3147 100.0 64000 7066 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 90.0 101.9 6.60 3144 100.0 64000 7111 1.033 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 93.0 100.5 6.51 3140 100.0 64000 6886 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 109.0 124.0 8.03 3137 99.7 57163 8069 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 96.2 108.4 7.02 3131 100.0 64000 6982 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 91.7 108.1 7.01 3125 100.0 64000 6962 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 109.0 125.8 8.15 3114 93.9 51659 8830 1.117
Raufoss RA4 109.0 131.4 8.51 3085 90.4 52416 8703 1.113
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 109.0 131.4 8.51 3085 90.4 52416 8703 1.113
Accurate 4350 109.0 125.7 8.14 3062 95.7 47513 8806 1.175
Vihtavuori N120 90.7 99.8 6.47 3062 100.0 64000 6367 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 109.0 130.7 8.47 3052 89.4 50292 8711 1.130
Alliant Reloder-19 109.0 131.4 8.51 3034 89.4 48471 8739 1.151
Rottweil R904 109.0 129.5 8.39 3029 88.7 51614 8310 1.127
IMR 4831 109.0 125.8 8.15 3028 95.6 46722 8557 1.179
Winchester Supreme 780 109.0 138.5 8.98 3026 89.7 51276 8384 1.127
Norma MRP 109.0 137.1 8.88 3016 89.3 44199 9314 1.192
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 109.0 131.4 8.51 3002 88.9 47386 8592 1.164
Somchem S385 109.0 132.8 8.61 2985 90.6 46421 8467 1.185
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 109.0 122.8 7.96 2985 97.0 45305 8160 1.185
IMR 7828 SSC 109.0 135.0 8.75 2969 84.4 46039 8709 1.176
Hodgdon H4831 SC 109.0 132.8 8.61 2947 85.1 47407 8206 1.167
ADI AR 2213 109.0 132.8 8.61 2938 84.0 45302 8520 1.186
Vihtavuori N560 109.0 134.2 8.70 2936 83.1 42742 8820 1.213
Alliant Reloder-22 109.0 132.8 8.61 2927 86.3 41946 8743 1.222
Raufoss RA15 109.0 132.8 8.61 2927 86.3 41946 8743 1.222
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 109.0 132.8 8.61 2927 86.3 41946 8743 1.222
Accurate MAGPRO 109.0 139.7 9.05 2885 80.0 41423 8608 1.232
 

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I will be the one to say NO! There is a reason that rifle has only been shot 3 times. The recoil of the 460 WM makes a 458 Win mag seem like shooting a 30-06. If you were going to Africa after Elephant then may be yes but in North America NO WAY.
 
Recoil is not, nor has ever been an issue.

I have the DAIN BRAMAGE to prove it. :mrgreen:
 
FOTIS":oked74na said:
pretty much yeah~ :twisted:


Sometimes my enthusiasm takes over my logic!!!!!!!! :roll:

Since when did logic ever come into play when it comes to buying guns? :shock:
 
OU812":3fdq23uq said:
Since when did logic ever come into play when it comes to buying guns? :shock:

Man, I could not agree more Bill.. Logic stopped after we all bought the first 30-06 or 300 mag. After that, we all just went nuts. Scotty
 
Those are good looking rifles Fotis, I would not sit on this one :wink:

Blessings,
Dan
 
Fotis,

That looks like a dandy speed goat bullet! :mrgreen:

JD338
 
So far the "I think you should's" have it. You really didnt need our help tro talk you into it, but it helps convince the wife.... "but honey....everybody thinks I should...." :grin: CL
 
You never have to worry about confusing enthusiasm with logic. Enthusiasm IS logic!! :wink: I know it is cause I just missed a 460 last week by being enthusiastic when I should have been logical and buy it. A custom built stainless with brake for a Alaskan resident that moved to Georgia. He also had a 358 STW that I got too enthusiastic about and didn't logically buy it. Man you just got to get "LOGICAL" and buy it before it's too late. IMHO
Greg
 
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