The President Made You!

[Oldtrader3]

Medicare is by no means free. Myself and my employer paid Medicare 3% of my total earning for nearly 50 years during my long working life. My wife and I continue to pay $105. apiece ($210 monthly) to Medicare for no prescription coverage. Medicare Part B Major Medical pays an average 0f 20% of billed medical costs for each individual medical care billing. However you are a lawyer and know fully well that Medicare (after the election) is going to reduce their copay on Part B Medicare to 12%! Do you really in your wildest dreams, think that this is some great government payout? Doctors and hospitals can not even pay their basic out-of-pocket direct costs with Medicare reimbursement, let alone overhead or insurance premiums but you know that!

I have paid the taxes and pay the insurance every single month of my life since I was sixteen years old. Do not patronise me on how lucky I am to have given the government $3000+ dollars a year for 40+ years and get back 12% of my major medical expense, maybe. You must truly believe that I am stupid or something? I do not even need to count my fingers and toes to know that this is a government scam with taxpayer money! Tell me again Hunter, how lucky I am!

 

[Guest]

As I said, government cannot create, even by redistribution. It can only destroy.

 

[aka Hunter]

Tell me again Hunter, how lucky I am!

It'd just fall on deaf ears.

As I said, government cannot create, even by redistribution. It can only destroy.

Some folks think the "founding fathers" were pretty smart; I wonder why they created "government" in the first place?

 

[Guest]

What they created was "limited government under a federalist system" and, not coincidentally, that works very well. It is a government that has the basic powers necessary to maintain order and national security and regulate trade between the various states. What we have now is nothing like that. They were smart. The folks running the show now have not the good sense God gave geese. As I said earlier, society accepts a minimum amount of government, despite the knowledge that it is a net loss, for the sake of security and peace. Don't cherry pick my statements to make your point. Either use what I actually said, or ignore it. The idea that government creates anything is asinine, Hunter, and you are intelligent enough to know that. And yet, I, as our founding fathers did, prefer the cost of a limited government to anarchy. I just prefer limited government, and what we have currently is unlimited government.

 

[Oldtrader3]

No, you are being the Devil's Advocate because you are a lawyer and like to twist reality into your own version to fit your personal agenda. I have and will always listen to those who make a reasonable aurgument based on fact and reality.

BTW, our company used DHL, container ships and private trucking firms to deliver products to our customers all over the world. THese were all public stockholder companies. The "public" roads that our trucks used were built by taxpayer dollars not by the government who owns nothing but the goodwill and taxes of their citizens, You have twisted it backwards as usual!

 

[aka Hunter]

The idea that government creates anything is asinine, Hunter, and you are intelligent enough to know that.

Maybe not; I went to school where Forrest Gump did. :grin:

 

[Oldtrader3]

Hunter, you may be the single exception of Alabama graduates whom I have ever met, who believe that the Federal Government does anything but interfere in the lives of good, Christian people and take their money for no good purpose other than to create massive and wasteful bureaucracy with mispent taxpayer dollars.

 

[aka Hunter]

Hunter, you may be the single exception of Alabama graduates whom I have ever met, who believe that the Federal Government does anything but interfere in the lives of good, Christian people and take their money for no good purpose other than to create massive and wasteful bureaucracy with mispent taxpayer dollars.

Actually, I didn't intend for my comments to be interpreted as being limited to the federal gov't; I was referring to all gov't. BTW, if the Alabama state gov't had not created that school then who would have the best college football program in the land? :grin:

 

[IdahoCTD]

Hunter, you may be the single exception of Alabama graduates whom I have ever met, who believe that the Federal Government does anything but interfere in the lives of good, Christian people and take their money for no good purpose other than to create massive and wasteful bureaucracy with mispent taxpayer dollars.

Actually, I didn't intend for my comments to be interpreted as being limited to the federal gov't; I was referring to all gov't. BTW, if the Alabama state gov't had not created that school then who would have the best college football program in the land? :grin:

Without a playoff system we will never know who is truly the best football team. College football is run by more fat cats who think they know what's best (reminds me a lot of government). They think no other teams in the nation can beat a SEC team, Big 10, or a PAC-12 team and they do everything they can to prevent other teams from having the chance at it. Oh and BTW that state school was still funded by the sweat off of someone else back.

 

[aka Hunter]

Without a playoff system we will never know who is truly the best football team.

You're in denial, right? :shock:

 

[IdahoCTD]

Nope. When you give a few conferences the benefit of the doubt they will always have the best chance at winning. As a matter of fact several bowl games can only be played by BCS teams. So if a team in a non BCS conference goes undefeated they never get ranked high enough to have a chance at the title even though they could possibly win. It's been going on for as long as the BCS has been around. How many titles has Alabama won in the BCS versus before? Look at how high a 2 loss SEC/Pac-12/Big-10 team is ranked compared to other undefeated or 1 loss teams. The BCS is where the money is at and they are trying to keep it that way. They don't want a playoff system because it might mean a non BCS team could win and they could lose a lot of money. If the major conferences start losing too much money they lose their recruiting power and money for scholarships. It's political and all about money just like government.

Why does no one really complain about the NCAA basketball tournament? Maybe because it's actually somewhat fair? Look at how many top ranked teams were knocked off by no name schools this year. The BCS couldn't live with themselves if something like that happened.

 

[aka Hunter]

It's political and all about money just like government.

Actually, I agree.