Venting: Low Number '03 Unsafe

roysclockgun

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Dec 17, 2005
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Any feedback/comments will be appreciated.
I am no whistle blower, but sometimes rudeness pushes me toward being one.
At the local flea market, concessionaires regularly show up selling tables of modern firearms, to include hand guns and hi-cap rifles. I have asked a number of them if "paper" needs to be filled out to buy any of those firearms. The answer has always been something like : "No! I am private!" Huh? They are there, week after week with different firearms, selling through what has come to be known as the "Gun Show Loophole"!
This week, I asked to pick up a Bubba-ized US Model 1903 Springfield Rifle, because I am always looking for parts guns. Both the front and rear sight were commercial and holes had been drilled and tapped to mount them. The stock was a very old commercial model, with large split at the wrist that had been sloppily repaired. The serial number was well below 800,000, making it unsafe to fire with full power ammo. Maybe lightly loaded cast bullets would be okay, but I would not even try those in that brittle receiver. Basically, I could use the bolt, barrel and some minor receiver parts. While I looked at the piece the seller went into the usual BS harrangue: "That is an original 1903 Army raffle that is untouched and original! I will let you have it for $150! Make me an offer!" I began to asked him if he knew of the dangers of firing a "low number" '03. His demeanor changed and he said; "Oh, you know everything!" I should have quit there, but I asked how he could tout the piece as "original" when it had a split, commercial stock. He became more defensive and asked if I was going to buy the rifle, or not. I said given the condition and low number, I could pay $50. He again made the "you know everything" remark and I walked on down the line.
I am only venting. I would not cause him any trouble, but with his attitude, I felt as if I could happily do so. He is not only operating above the law by offering modern firearms for sale every week, while holding no FFL, but he is touting a rifle that is dangerous to fire, as a "good huntin' raffle!"
Most flea market deales will try to draw the "lookers" into conversation, by spouting total untruths. This, either because they are ignorant of the facts, or just plain liars. I should have learned by now to only make a cash offer and leave with the piece, or just leave. Period.
Steven A.
 
Steve, that wasn't the Daytona flea Market? I've been to a few Flea Markets in your area and wasn'tl too happy with what I saw or what bogus info was being passed by sellers.
 
Steve, thanks for the info. Another one to avoid. Unfortunately I think everyone on this forum has probably run into this at one time or another.
 
If this flea bag is shaddy, get his contact info and turn it over to LE.

JD338
 
Yeah, I quit going to gun shows years ago.

Between the hucksters selling garbage, the "deals" that were higher than the same item in a local gunshop, and the out & out racism & Nazi worship I was seeing... It just wasn't my cuppa tea.

If you've got a good gun show near you, enjoy! I used to go but they got worse and worse locally, so I've been to maybe one in the past ten years.

Guy
 
I've never been to a gun show in the states. However, I have been to quite a few here in Canada. I can say that generally the sellers are very optimistic about what they are selling; they value their wares at a premium. Occasionally, I will find a reasonably priced item, but that is rare. We don't have to deliver to a FFL holder, though we do have to register the transfer with the Federal Firearms Centre. Steven's point about "hot air" (my generous interpretation) is well nigh universal, however. There are always people willing to say whatever the buyer wants to hear in order to make a sale. I do think JD is correct, however, that if the individual was deliberately attempting to circumvent the law, then LE needs to be notified. Such actions incriminate the entire shooting/hunting community in the eyes of the ignorant.
 
Roy, in my experience, most of them are just plain ignorant. Often times in a situation such as your I like to ask a question or two that I know that answer to, just to see what they say. It helps me deicide if I want to do business with them or not.
 
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