What would you do if??

[jtoews80]

Last Fall I sold a Browning Abolt 7mm STW composite/blued 26" barrel w/Leupold VX3 3.5-10X40 scope to a guy. When we went to transfer the registration(I'm from Canada) it turns out his permit is expired by 10 years or so. It was the old FAC permit that hasn't been issues since 1996. He says to try it anyway and as I expected it was a no go. He goes on that he wants it anyway and pays me a good price for it. I can't give it to him without transfering it to him, but gave him 100 rounds of new win brass and some RCBS 7mm STW dies.

That was September and I haven't heard from him since. I called him in Feb and he said that he'd messed up the application and it got sent back. Figured that he'd have it wrapped back up in a week, it's been another almost 2 months and still nothing.

It has stayed in my guncase and been in the way for 8 months, I am tempted to buy another set of dies, some brass and use it, but that isn't right.
I am not sure what I'll do if it isn't gone by fall, it is a great deer rifle.

What would you guys do?

JT

 

[jtoews80]

This is a pain in the rear, It isn't mine to use, just aking up space in a vault that is already too small.

 

[JDMAG]

possession is 9/10th of the law. I don't think you would wear the barrel out if you wanted to shoot it. and if he isn't coming across with the proper paper work, in a timely manner, maybe something is "askew"?

 

[Greg Nolan]

I believe I would give the gentleman a cutoff date to perform or the contract is ended. I would line up another buyer or decide to keep it myself (most likely) and when or if he can't meet the deadline go thru with what you've decided. I think you've been patient and like JDMAG says something may be "askew" and you could get involved in a big problem by bending the rules for the guy.
Good Luck

 

[jtoews80]

If I get to aggressive with it I'll have to buy it back, I added that into the bill of sale as a courtesy even tho he wasn't concerned(felt weird taking money from him and the gun). Not really sure I want it back, but it would seem that something is wrong or that the guy isn't really in a hurry to get it. There has been some talk of the long gun registry being abolished here, so that may be what he is waiting for. He paid $1100 Cad for the package when the dollar was at par, so he seemed pretty serious about it at the time. The STW is not nearly as common as it once was in Canada and he wanted one. It's been eclipsed by the 7mm RUM here. I'll let it be until hunting season. When I called him in Febraury I left him my number again, which he said he'd lost. I think the onus is one him as I've already stored it for quite some time. If it exceeds a year I`ll expect vault rent :grin: If it goes over two years I may just treat it as my own again.

JT.

 

[DrMike]

Give a cut-off date for action on his part. If there is no response by that time, send the money back and start over with the rifle. There may be a variety of reasons why he is hurrying, though I suspect that he is having some personal difficulties (family, job, etc.) or he would be chomping at the bit to get his hands on the rifle for which he has already paid!

The 7 STW can be a sweet calibre.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

If I understand correctly, he paid you $1100.00 for the rifle, and you have both the rifle and the money.
He has some or your dies, and brass and a messed up permit. In addition, he will no longer return your calls?
Does that summarize it?

 

[jtoews80]

He answers the phone, but no news. He was in a hurry to buy it, but now the new firearms permit seems to be giving him grief. I'll just have to sit tight for awhile. Usually when waiting for anything it seems that when you figure that it isn't going to happen it is almost there.

JT.

 

[blacktailhunter]

I would give him a cutt-off date for the transaction to be completed. After that, return the money minus the value of the dies and brass. Complications with firearms transactions are nothing to sit and stew over. If this guy is not legit 100%, then you need to wash your hands of this completely. Personally, I would give him no longer than the end of the month.

 

[old #7]

It doesn't sound like you will be loosing out on anything.
He paid you 1100 and you still have the gun. Why set a deadline to recieve the gun. it's not like he bid on it and you are waiting for payment.
I don't know how Canada works but maybe next time you apply for your permit you may want the same courtesy.
What would you say to the guy anyway......... Take the gun by the end of the month or I will give your money back and try to sell it again.
I would tell him that you are concerned about the condition of the gun and you want it's condition, when he recieves it, to be the same as when he paid for it.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Well, is the Registry as messed up as we hear it is? How long does it usually take to renew a permit in Canada? You have both the Rifle and the Money, so it that situation, I would error on the side of being the good guy.

 

[jtoews80]

AS Old #7 stated, I am not losing much having the money & the rifle. I'm just really feeling the itch to take it out and shoot it as spring is here and the weather is great. And it`s not mine, so I really am not intitled to it.
Other than taking up space in an already crowded gun safe, it is not really a problem.
More than anything, I am just bored and needing a different rifle to play with. I have an application for a Handgun permit in the works so that should be the next toy....

JT.

 

[old #7]

If you have the money then satisfy your itch by contacting the guy and telling him you are going to spend the money he has given you on a new rifle and if his transaction doesn't go through you may need a "little bit" to give the money back if he doesn't hurry up and complete his end of the deal.

Wow that is a great run on sentance, :grin:

 

[jtoews80]

There is a Sako 75 7mm SS/syn that has a new barrel in Edmonton for sale....... That would be a nice rifle.

JT.