When The Wind Blows Down Here - What Next?????

[bullet]

The 30-06 with the 150gr GS HV is a laser for an 06 at 3095fps. You should see how fast this 150gr GS HV will move in my 300wby. When I finish the load work with it you will be impressed at the velocities and hopefully the accuracy.

All that said, I do want some thing I have wanted for years to hunt in the thickets because down here when the wind picks up even the does and young buck will not come to the fields, food plots or gas-lines. The real big bucks every blue moon might step out on a field or gas-line when it is not windy but never have I seen a 3 1/2 year old or older buck do it when the wind is up.

The 358 will work perfect for it. Plus, you know I am not into shots over 450 to 500yds although I have taken them on game out to 618yds, but I am not a long range hunter. I like the hunt to much for that. My 06 or 300 have the energy and flat trajectory for bean fields, large plots and gas-line right aways not to mention the 257wby.

So in a couple of weeks I will have me a Ruger Hawkeye 358 Win and will be shooting and trying the 225 AccuBond and Sierra 225 GK. I have three thick wooded bottoms and 4 thickets I am going to find myself in next year and try and harvest a large buck. Down here that is a feet in itself. Infact get one buck a year is a feat and anything extra down here is a bonus. Going to improve my odds on the big ones this coming year. :grin:

 

[FOTIS]

Just a word of caution from someone who has played a lot with 358's.

The 225 AB will not work....too long for a short cartridge. Wayyyyyyy too much seating needed. It will work for the 35 Whelen though.
For the 358 I used the 225 Sierra, the hornadies and the 200 grain Barnes TSX.

 

[bullet]

Just a word of caution from someone who has played a lot with 358's.

The 225 AB will not work....too long for a short cartridge. Wayyyyyyy too much seating needed. It will work for the 35 Whelen though.
For the 358 I used the 225 Sierra, the hornadies and the 200 grain Barnes TSX.

You know I never thought of that, point well made. Hmmmmm?????? A Partition would work don't you think?

 

[FOTIS]

Yup the 225 Partition would work great!



Cartridge : .358 Win.
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.780 inch or 70.61 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch or 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

69 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Winchester 748 105.0 48.5 3.14 2529 98.3 58588 6522 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 97.5 43.0 2.79 2516 100.0 60000 5837 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 100.3 47.0 3.05 2512 99.4 60000 6258 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 105.0 48.5 3.14 2509 97.9 59874 6460 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10 99.9 45.9 2.97 2508 99.4 60000 6219 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 100.0 44.4 2.87 2507 99.8 60000 6060 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 99.9 45.9 2.98 2506 99.4 60000 6210 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 101.3 45.0 2.92 2499 99.8 60000 6082 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 102.9 47.4 3.07 2499 98.5 60000 6253 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
SF-033 fl 101.2 44.4 2.88 2497 100.0 60000 5542 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 104.0 47.9 3.10 2488 98.4 60000 6175 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 105.0 47.3 3.07 2478 97.4 57446 6351 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 105.0 45.3 2.94 2478 97.5 58486 6280 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 105.0 43.8 2.84 2478 99.7 57449 6021 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 103.7 42.0 2.72 2478 100.0 60000 5665 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 101.9 46.9 3.04 2472 98.3 60000 6049 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 105.0 47.1 3.05 2461 97.1 56053 6323 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 105.0 46.0 2.98 2461 99.7 58636 5885 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1/NP ~approximation 94.2 41.9 2.71 2460 100.0 60000 5512 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 94.2 41.9 2.71 2460 100.0 60000 5512 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 105.0 49.2 3.19 2460 96.4 52959 6569 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 105.0 43.6 2.83 2456 100.0 59060 5611 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 100.1 44.4 2.88 2454 98.3 60000 5980 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 105.0 46.1 2.99 2448 97.2 56519 6240 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 97.8 44.8 2.90 2446 98.3 60000 5923 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200 97.1 42.3 2.74 2443 99.0 60000 5810 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 102.4 39.5 2.56 2430 100.0 60000 5201 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207 97.7 39.2 2.54 2428 100.0 60000 5169 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 105.0 44.4 2.88 2418 97.8 57722 5874 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 100.9 42.4 2.75 2414 100.0 60000 5307 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 105.0 42.2 2.73 2404 100.0 58183 5304 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 98.2 39.6 2.57 2403 99.7 60000 5360 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 105.0 48.5 3.14 2394 94.3 52592 6092 1.149
Rottweil R901 105.0 42.8 2.78 2386 98.5 52147 5949 1.186
Vihtavuori N120 100.3 39.3 2.55 2382 100.0 60000 4792 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder- 7 91.5 38.0 2.46 2382 100.0 60000 4923 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 105.0 46.5 3.01 2375 97.3 47337 6168 1.200
ADI AR 2206H 105.0 45.1 2.92 2375 95.8 56470 5745 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227 92.5 36.4 2.36 2374 100.0 60000 4820 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 105.0 44.4 2.87 2373 98.2 49107 6016 1.186
SNPE Vectan SP 9 105.0 46.6 3.02 2369 93.9 49593 6166 1.177

 

[DrMike]

My experience with the Hawkeye is great. Mine shoots far better than it should. I suspect that you'll love it.

In my 358 Hawkeye, I have exceptional loads worked up with the 200 grain TSX, the 225 Sierra Game King and with the 225 Partition. I am having excellent results with TAC and 10X powders. And 748 is a great performer with the Partition.

 

[bullet]

Thanks, you guys are cool and the info POP and DrMike will save time and money.

 

[DrMike]

Glad to help. Consequently, the velocities reported in the latest Barnes Manual with the 200 grain TSX are phenomenal. I suggest you approach them with caution, but they appear to be achievable. Nevertheless, I'm not undergunned with the 225 Game King or the 225 Partition for most game in North America.

 

[FOTIS]

Bullet. do not discount your 450 Marlin for the aforementioned task.

 

[bullet]

Bullet. do not discount your 450 Marlin for the aforementioned task.

Well that would be hard to do since I gave it away to a friend who could use it in the thick stuff he hunts in. Anyway he has always wanted a thumper like the 450 so I gave it to him and he is having fun with it. :grin:

 

[FOTIS]

That is nice of you!!!!! 8)

It is still yours though right?

 

[bullet]

That is nice of you!!!!! 8)

It is still yours though right?

No, I gave it to him. Nothing like a man really wanting something and you only say he can borrow it. No, I gave it to him and he is having a lot of fun with it and I know what that is like when you get a new toy. He is a cool guy anyway and he is addicted to guns like me so understand the addiction. :grin:

 

[JD338]

bullet,

That is a very cool thing to do.

Do you wanna give me your 257 Weatherby? PLEASE. :lol: :lol: :lol:

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

Bullet you are wayyyy too kind! Good for you sir!

 

[DrMike]

It's great to have friends like that; and it is even greater to be a friend like that.

 

[bullet]

bullet,

That is a very cool thing to do.

Do you wanna give me your 257 Weatherby? PLEASE. :lol: :lol: :lol:

JD338

Jim, as much as I like you and your great post and know I would like to hunt with you I don't think the 257Wby is going anywhere. :lol: Sorry :grin:

 

[FOTIS]

So the 450 in your signature Bullet will be replaced with a 358 huh? :lol:

 

[bullet]

So the 450 in your signature Bullet will be replaced with a 358 huh? :lol:

Looks that way :grin:

And thanks for all the data. 8)