CFE223 in .243 WIN with 100 gr bullet

wvbuckbuster

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Nov 5, 2015
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I thought I saw somewhere load data using CFE223 in the .243WIN with 100 gr bullets but can't find it. Maybe I was dreaming or looked at the wrong one. All the info that Hod buts out is for bullets less than 80 grs. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Thanks, Dan.
 
My take would be it is to fast for bullets over 80 grains. It would not be very efficient so they do not list or recommend it for that use.
 
Code:
Cartridge          : .243 Win.
Bullet             : .243, 100, Nosler PART SP 35642
Useable Case Capaci: 49.323 grain H2O = 3.203 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon CFE223 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   76    37.93   2758    1690   43530   9825     99.3    1.346
-09.0   77    38.35   2785    1723   44866   9903     99.5    1.327
-08.0   78    38.77   2812    1756   46239   9977     99.6    1.309
-07.0   79    39.19   2839    1789   47651  10046     99.7    1.291
-06.0   80    39.61   2865    1823   49103  10111     99.8    1.273
-05.0   81    40.03   2891    1856   50595  10172     99.9    1.256
-04.0   82    40.45   2917    1890   52130  10229    100.0    1.239  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   82    40.88   2943    1924   53708  10280    100.0    1.223  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   83    41.30   2969    1958   55331  10328    100.0    1.207  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   84    41.72   2995    1991   57000  10375    100.0    1.191  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   85    42.14   3020    2025   58716  10422    100.0    1.175  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   86    42.56   3045    2059   60481  10468    100.0    1.160  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   87    42.98   3071    2094   62296  10513    100.0    1.145  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   88    43.40   3096    2128   64164  10558    100.0    1.130  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   88    43.83   3120    2162   66085  10602    100.0    1.116  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0   89    44.25   3145    2196   68062  10645    100.0    1.102  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     85    42.14   3054    2071   61850  10307    100.0    1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     85    42.14   2981    1974   55584  10546    100.0    1.203  ! Near Maximum !
I put a 59500 cap on these
Code:
Cartridge          : .243 Win.
Bullet             : .243, 100, Nosler PART SP 35642
Useable Case Capaci: 49.323 grain H2O = 3.203 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59500 psi, or 410 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 108 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

16 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C               99.6     48.7     3.15    3154   100.0    59500   11913   1.168  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP *C                       100.4     47.6     3.09    3130    99.8    59500   12046   1.164  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C                97.3     47.1     3.05    3122    99.9    59500   11697   1.150  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 102.1     47.5     3.07    3122    97.7    59500   12288   1.159  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              108.0     48.8     3.16    3120   100.0    58797   11571   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                105.0     50.9     3.30    3116    98.6    59500   12057   1.153  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  104.8     50.9     3.30    3115    98.7    59500   12038   1.154  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC                       100.9     47.1     3.05    3110    98.1    59500   11916   1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828                           106.6     47.1     3.05    3110    98.1    59500   11916   1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                91.1     43.4     2.81    3106   100.0    59500   10770   1.153  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO                    102.4     49.5     3.21    3106    96.4    59500   12302   1.168  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       102.4     47.1     3.05    3099    99.0    59500   11849   1.165  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA15 *C                    102.4     47.1     3.05    3099    99.0    59500   11849   1.165  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              102.4     47.1     3.05    3099    99.0    59500   11849   1.165  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP15                        105.1     47.3     3.06    3097    99.0    59500   11856   1.165  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR                     105.1     47.3     3.06    3097    99.0    59500   11856   1.165  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N565 *C                 106.9     49.9     3.23    3096    97.9    59500   12126   1.180  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213                        101.8     46.8     3.03    3095    98.0    59500   11799   1.148  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T            94.9     42.0     2.72    3083   100.0    59500   10727   1.152  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               90.1     42.9     2.78    3081   100.0    59500   10700   1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Elcho 17                            90.1     42.9     2.78    3081   100.0    59500   10700   1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214                        105.6     49.8     3.23    3081    98.3    59500   11615   1.148  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum                     102.2     50.6     3.28    3076    99.5    59500   11305   1.160  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T           104.9     46.7     3.02    3072   100.0    59500   10736   1.171  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905                      103.6     46.7     3.03    3064    97.6    59500   11534   1.165  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209                         98.7     44.6     2.89    3063    98.8    59500   11257   1.152  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 *C               99.1     45.1     2.92    3058    98.9    59500   11305   1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 518                 95.5     44.8     2.90    3057    99.9    59500   11061   1.167  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511                 91.7     44.4     2.88    3055    99.9    59500   10992   1.167  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C               108.0     53.3     3.45    3055    96.1    53671   12662   1.217  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   93.3     44.5     2.88    3055   100.0    59500   10784   1.180  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter                      94.7     44.5     2.88    3054    99.9    59500   10975   1.168  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    105.3     48.8     3.16    3053    96.1    59500   11555   1.153  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          99.8     45.4     2.94    3050    98.9    59500   11219   1.162  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365                        96.4     43.6     2.82    3045   100.0    59500   10215   1.177  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP30                        108.0     49.1     3.18    3039    97.7    53980   12094   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C                     108.0     49.1     3.18    3039    97.7    53980   12094   1.219  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 *C                 108.0     51.8     3.35    3039    92.4    52401   12889   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                        94.3     42.4     2.75    3037   100.0    59500   10542   1.172  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          94.3     42.4     2.75    3037   100.0    59500   10539   1.172  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 *C                  91.6     42.6     2.76    3036   100.0    59500   10661   1.176  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4                         97.1     44.2     2.86    3036    98.7    59500   11029   1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 *C                        94.1     44.2     2.86    3036    98.7    59500   11029   1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           97.1     44.2     2.86    3036    98.7    59500   11029   1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350                       93.6     42.5     2.76    3032   100.0    59500   10521   1.190  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                100.4     46.1     2.99    3030    97.3    59500   11114   1.159  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 *T                   104.4     46.1     2.99    3030    97.3    59500   11114   1.159  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385                        99.3     45.7     2.96    3020    99.4    59500   10813   1.182  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831                            98.9     43.1     2.79    3017   100.0    59500   10308   1.182  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation     94.8     43.8     2.84    3013    99.6    59500   10650   1.174  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780              97.8     46.9     3.04    3007    98.8    59500   10723   1.168  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R904                       98.0     43.9     2.85    3006    97.9    59500   10752   1.163  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100                      102.5     46.6     3.02    3006    99.9    59500   10517   1.197  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N165 *C                 104.6     47.0     3.05    3002    99.2    59500   10543   1.173  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070                          94.0     42.3     2.74    3000    99.7    59500   10490   1.180  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T              101.5     44.9     2.91    2996    97.4    59500   10771   1.162  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 96.8     42.6     2.76    2995   100.0    59500    9727   1.172  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S071                         108.0     46.4     3.01    2995    99.9    58755   10503   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                 104.5     45.6     2.95    2986    97.9    59500   10533   1.167  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907                       92.0     41.0     2.66    2984    99.4    59500   10342   1.172  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP7                          92.0     41.0     2.66    2984    99.4    59500   10342   1.172  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2217                        108.0     48.6     3.15    2979    97.1    53503   11337   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 *T                   108.0     48.6     3.15    2979    97.1    53503   11337   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          93.0     41.4     2.68    2979   100.0    59500   10111   1.179  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S361                        96.9     46.9     3.04    2968    97.3    59500   10489   1.176  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-33 *C              108.0     53.3     3.45    2954    91.6    49073   12464   1.267
ADI AR 2225                        108.0     49.4     3.20    2923    98.6    46746   11815   1.287
Hodgdon Retumbo                    108.0     49.4     3.20    2923    98.6    46746   11815   1.287
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T              105.8     47.6     3.08    2920    90.3    59500   10251   1.168  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2218                        108.0     52.3     3.39    2878    88.4    46942   12365   1.284
Lovex D100                         108.0     52.8     3.42    2876    87.1    54224   10590   1.223  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C                108.0     52.3     3.39    2845    84.0    49708   11003   1.260
Norma 217 *C                       108.0     48.4     3.13    2822    96.3    40979   11799   1.381
Vihtavuori N170 *C                 108.0     48.6     3.15    2814    89.4    48749   10617   1.296
Hodgdon H870                       108.0     50.7     3.29    2792    90.2    41572   11697   1.371
Alliant Reloder-50 *C              108.0     53.1     3.44    2744    86.4    39061   11841   1.428
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 108.0     51.9     3.37    2693    78.4    41387   10901   1.425
Hodgdon US 869                     108.0     52.3     3.39    2645    79.6    40233   10197   1.401
Hodgdon 50BMG                      108.0     49.9     3.23    2644    75.2    40300   10155   1.395
Somchem 12.7-0                     108.0     50.7     3.29    2604    75.2    41325    9436   1.381
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  108.0     50.2     3.25    2590    83.9    36532   10085   1.466
Accurate 8700                      108.0     51.2     3.32    2560    82.5    36123    9976   1.467
Vihtavuori 20N29 *C                108.0     52.8     3.42    2534    79.1    34778    9986   1.499
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       108.0     50.2     3.25    2522    80.6    34370    9746   1.507
NC A3502 ,test only                108.0     48.0     3.11    2319    55.9    32267    7407   1.547
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           108.0     48.0     3.11    2296    60.5    30183    7858   1.591
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       108.0     48.0     3.11    1646    27.5    16828    3625   2.062
 
Thank you for the quick load info. Will give this a try in my 243. CFE223 groups well in my .223 and .308 Thanks again, Dan.
 
Finally got around to trying the CFE223 in my .243 Win. Was hoping for reduced bullet fouling but it was the same as all other powders. Group wise it did produce one group that was about 3/4 in. Not great but not terrible. Would make a good alternative. The gun is a Husky full stock with 20 in bbl I think it might be a little rough. No pits just a bore that fouls. Plan on sticking with H4350 and IMR 4831 for the loads it likes best. Thanks again for the information. Dan.
 
if you have IMR7828ssc , give it a try with your 100 gr bullets . that's what I loaded in my sons 243 .
 
I've tried H4350, H4831sc, 7828ssc and H1000. They were all OK, but the H1000 was great.
 
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