Notice: This site is not mobile friendly, we recommend you download tapatalk for a mobile friendly experience of our forum.

It is currently Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:25 am

Shop Nosler

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:49 pm 

Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:39 am
Posts: 254
Location: SW Montana
So I just finished watching a series on a YouTube channel(I am not naming) Where they were out hunting and taking some long shots on small deer and not very successfully, missed, wounded and lost, wounded and recovered. At first I just shook my head and thought WTF. But it gives you a lot to think about, and wonder why they even uploaded the videos.
You read the comments to their videos and you can just image the variety of responses; chastising, supportive, defensive.

I will say it is great in that you can use so much of it to help educate other hunters. First off they were not under gunned and I am sure they have had plenty of trigger time, and know their equipment(and still miss). They showed that hunting isn't just physically demanding but also emotionally draining and how hard it can be to come to terms with a lost animal and not wanting to give up on the search. Long range hunting is not easy and technology isn't fool proof. You need to be ready for a followup shot(every time, they weren't).
My Rant (Why not try and get a closer shot, spot n' stalk not spot n' snipe, be a hunter not a shooter. You may loose that one opportunity, but the game lives to give that opportunity to someone else, it's all part of hunting. Do not give the non-hunting public/voters the opportunity to criticize and impose new more restrictive regulations!)

I will say also the guys on the channel do a fantastic job promoting fair chase, conservation, ethics, education, public access, and the outdoor way of life. They could have chosen to edit or not even upload this hunt, and not sure why they did other then to show the reality.


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:55 am 

Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:59 pm
Posts: 50
Slimfinn wrote:
So I just finished watching a series on a YouTube channel(I am not naming) .

Why aren't you naming?
If it's in the public domain there isn't an issue naming.
Name it and then we can give an opinion.


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:26 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:39 am
Posts: 2064
Location: Northern Maine/New Brunswick Border
Slimfinn wrote:
So I just finished watching a series on a YouTube channel(I am not naming) Where they were out hunting and taking some long shots on small deer and not very successfully, missed, wounded and lost, wounded and recovered. At first I just shook my head and thought WTF. But it gives you a lot to think about, and wonder why they even uploaded the videos.
You read the comments to their videos and you can just image the variety of responses; chastising, supportive, defensive.

I will say it is great in that you can use so much of it to help educate other hunters. First off they were not under gunned and I am sure they have had plenty of trigger time, and know their equipment(and still miss). They showed that hunting isn't just physically demanding but also emotionally draining and how hard it can be to come to terms with a lost animal and not wanting to give up on the search. Long range hunting is not easy and technology isn't fool proof. You need to be ready for a followup shot(every time, they weren't).
My Rant (Why not try and get a closer shot, spot n' stalk not spot n' snipe, be a hunter not a shooter. You may loose that one opportunity, but the game lives to give that opportunity to someone else, it's all part of hunting. Do not give the non-hunting public/voters the opportunity to criticize and impose new more restrictive regulations!)

I will say also the guys on the channel do a fantastic job promoting fair chase, conservation, ethics, education, public access, and the outdoor way of life. They could have chosen to edit or not even upload this hunt, and not sure why they did other then to show the reality.


Well your rant simply makes the observation that folks today think they are WAY more talented than they actually are,after watching a few episodes of "best of the west" or similar program. After watching folks blunder shots at game for the last 45 years it has become very obvious that fancy rifles, premium bullets, and scopes with custom cut turrets, are only part of the overconfident attitude.
The part most of them never get after the 600yd shot , and the animal limps off; Is the simple fact that unless the game is hit "EXACTLY" where it needs
to be ( which is highly unlikely) you have now just wounded an animal, with a bullet that has arrived at the 600yd distance pretty much " out of gas" with barely enough grunt to have got it done correctly, had the hit been perfect. Having watched hundreds of head of game been fired at over my lifetime, I can tell you that "one shot kills" on shots over 350yds are
rare indeed................these movies showing instant kills on Big Bull Elk and Moose at distances in excess of 1000 yds from calibers that have diminished to about the energy of a 32/20 or 38/40.
Is a fantasy in reality......
Long range hunting is cool, and takes ALOT more skills than most actually have. The shows you have watched are the absolute truth, to the reality of most hunters" taking a poke" at one at 6/800 yds. Them documenting wounded animals draging themselfs off is exactly what really happens 80/90% of the time.............
E

_________________

The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it" - Thomas Jefferson


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:24 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 26, 2018 12:42 am
Posts: 603
Location: Germany, Lower Saxony
Gosh, I have a friend like that.
'who gets the longest kill in Africa?'
I am close to quitting loading for him.
If you want to go long range, shoot steel.
We all know what can go wrong on close ranges.
At 1000y, there is much more that can an will. One step in the 1,x seconds the bullet flies. Wind. ...
And than not even being allowed to track with a dog.
Getting close is the challenge.
Hitting for?
Well...

Gesendet von meinem HUAWEI VNS-L31 mit Tapatalk


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:42 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:12 pm
Posts: 3468
Well - at least they showed it all. For me 300 yards is a long shot and I grew up and learned to shoot out on the plains. :roll: All I will say... CL

_________________
Pray hard and shoot straight...


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:42 am 

Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:49 am
Posts: 131
I agree with the general consensus. I don’t video or take pictures of animals that I kill unless they are appropriate because I know where they can end up. Problem with showing everything including failed hunts is perspective. You never know who is viewing it once it’s out there and what they’re doing with it. There’s no control. My hay day of long range hunting is over as far as I can tell. It was before all the good equipment we have now. I simply loaded a 165 gr Ballistic Tip as hard as I could in my Browning Abolt BOSS 300 WM, sighted in for 300 yards and knew where to hold in my old 4X12 Leupold. Things mostly worked out and when they didn’t I followed up as quick as possible. Hunting can be ugly and when it is I certainly don’t show it off. Getting older brings wisdom and with wisdom comes sensible decisions. I don’t shoot over 300 yards on game anymore and it doesn’t bother me to make tag soup. I’ll punch paper and bang steel at distance to sharpen my skills but animals deserve more respect. It takes a tremendous amount of skill and patience to make long shots on game and to do it humanely. I’ve done it proficiently in the past but I don’t now because I don’t have the free time to master the skill and stay sharp. But, for those that can and are proficient you have my respect. I know how much time and effort it takes and it’s almost a full time job.


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:56 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:45 pm
Posts: 22648
Location: Cheyenne, WY
Personally I am amazed at these people who hunt on these shows. They are AWESOME shooters!!!!! ALL of them ALL the time!

I have never seen one wound or miss an animal at 1200 yards or more. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

_________________


Weatherby...There is no replacement for displacement and...
I nicknamed it Bee!


My blog.
https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:23 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:29 am
Posts: 1306
FOTIS wrote:
Personally I am amazed at these people who hunt on these shows. They are AWESOME shooters!!!!! ALL of them ALL the time!

I have never seen one wound or miss an animal at 1200 yards or more. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
LOL You crack me up Fotis

Sent from my motorola one using Tapatalk


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Just rambling about YouTube hunting
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:40 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:29 am
Posts: 1306
I don´t know about anyone else here, but I was raised being taught that you should get close to your animal because you owe it to the animal to anchor it quickly.
Now, to me, 400 yards is a long shot, and if I think I´m going to take an animal at that distance, I want as much energy possible to be on target as possible, without being beat to hell in the process.
Would I be tempted to shoot at a longer distance, I won´t say no, because, I have been tempted. Now, I have passed up a lot of shots because I know that the farther the shot, the more things can go wrong.
Shooting steel at 1000 yds is way different than actual field experience hunting. Shooting steel, you get multiple chances to hit your target. Hunting, you most likely get one shot, and you should make that count as much as possible, and this is after you've slogged up and down hills, or mountains, and you don´t get the chance to set everything up perfectly. Sometimes you'll shoot off your backpack, or a nook of a tree limb and tree.
I have seen videos on YouTube, where the hunter states that their quarry is farther away than it actually is. Well, I think they say that to puff themselves up to their audience.
For me, if a hunter wants to shoot long range hunting, then I think they should think hard about what they are doing, and they should have a setup that will get their quarry with one shot.


Hawk

Sent from my motorola one using Tapatalk


Top
Offline Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ]  Moderators: NoslerV, Nosler4, JD338, NOSLER, FOTIS

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

This forum is:

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Theme created StylerBB.net