Bergers for Hunting or Not?

[walkinhorseman]

I shoot Bergers exclusively in my match rifles. However, I would never consider a bullet with those design criteria for any big game. Maybe groundhogs. My big game rifles have seen Sierra’s, Hornady, and Noslers. I’m glad to see the old solid base boat tails back without the ballistic tips.

 

[Cneelk]

It’s the bergers sorry should have clarified

 

[ReloadKy]

I have tried the 135gr Classic hunters in my 6.5 creedmoor. Killed 2 deer this year. Doe went 20 yards with a complete pass through and great blood trail. Buck went 50 yards downhill with complete pass through and excellent blood trail. I would try them again.

 

[phil]

Tried ABLR’s last year myself for the 1st time. Results on paper and meat left nothing to be desired.

 

[JD338]

I do not care for them hence I’ve never used them. I do not like their design principles. Instead I am in the Nosler camp where bullets have predictable performance results.

JD338

 

[phil]

Just ordered another batch of ABLR for my 6.5 Mega.
129grs and they will be on high speed pursuit, maxed out with regular 130AB’s earlier at 3505fps.

 

[mjcmichigan]

I have not used them and won't use them on Game Animals. I want a bullet that will expand nicely, retain some weight, and penetrate like it should. When I was in H.S. hunting with my father one year I had a nice buck antelope stop broadside from me at about 50 yards standing broadside. I shot him right behind the shoulder in the lungs. He dropped like lightning had struck him and never moved. I was shooting my 6mm Remington loaded with a 85 gr. Sierra boat-tail hollow-point bullet. I was planning to use it on a coyote when this opportunity presented itself to me. Yes it killed that antelope as quickly as I had ever seen an animal taken before, but.............................. When I dressed him out the bullet went in and disintegrated with not one piece of jacket or lead making it to the inside of the chest cavity on the opposite side of the buck. It worked but certainly not recommended.

Used that bullet Sierra Game King 85 gn HPBT over 49.1gn RL26 in 243Win. Was getting 3250fps. Used it on crop damage deer. 6 shot. 6 recovered. 5 took zero steps. No exit wounds. As you mentioned, no obviously recoverable bullet. The odd deer, had an exit wound. Made it 25 yards and piled up. Fond of that bullet. That said working on a 243 NBT 90 grains and next would be 85 grain NPT.

 

[mjcmichigan]

To date, non-Berger user. Working a 168 gr load for 300 WSM work white tail/antelope.
Opposite that will be a 180 NPT.

 

[SJB358]

Never used one hunting. Shot a few on paper over the years.

Why does it matter if the tip is cleaned out on a Berger? Doesn’t the nose just collapse on impact? Sorry for the question. I was wondering when a few said make sure the tip is cleaned out. I always thought they initiated expansion from the tip getting smashed and the bullet coming unglued from there.