45 ACP Pet Loads

[JD338]

I am going to start loading for my Kimber 45 ACP. I want a target/practice load with the 230 gr FMJ that would be around 800 fps.

I also want a clean burning powder such as Universal Clays, Titegroup, or WST.

What are you fellas loading in your 45 ACPs?

JD338

 

[Richracer1]

JD try about 4.5 to 5 gns of Bullseye. That's what I use in my Kimber 45.

 

[JD338]

JD try about 4.5 to 5 gns of Bullseye. That's what I use in my Kimber 45.

Rich,

Isn't Bullseye kinda on the dirty side?
Are you shooting jacketed or lead?

Thanks for your assistance.

JD338

 

[Ridgerunner665]

My load is 7 grains of Power Pistol under a 230 grain XTP...I use that load for CCW, deer hunting, plinking, and targets.

Its not a "mild" load...830 fps from the 4.25 inch barrel on my 1911, but very accurate and powerful. I like to practice with what I use everyday.

The hotter you load Power Pistol...the cleaner it burns.

 

[Richracer1]

As for cleanliness, I don't remember. It's been a while since I shot it. The bullet I use is 200SWC (lead), but Alliant shows 5gns as max for the GD(something) 230gn Speer.

 

[FOTIS]

Win 231 is by far the cleanest powder I have ever tried. Burning rate is similar to Bullseye. BTW Power pistol is all I use now.

Cartridge : .45 Auto (ACP) (SAAMI)
Bullet : .451, 185, Nosler JHP 44847
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.275 inch or 32.39 mm
Barrel Length : 5.0 inch or 127.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 18374 psi, or 126 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

51 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma R123 103.4 17.2 1.11 1201 71.0 18375 6293 0.579 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil J706 91.2 9.0 0.59 1129 99.3 18375 4519 0.625 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N105 99.5 12.9 0.84 1125 72.9 18375 4808 0.585 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 97.0 16.4 1.06 1097 55.9 18375 4531 0.590 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 512 102.8 16.3 1.06 1097 55.9 18375 4517 0.591 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400 94.3 14.9 0.96 1093 56.2 18375 4437 0.596 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 93.1 12.6 0.82 1081 65.3 18375 4292 0.605 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 97.8 16.8 1.09 1062 51.1 18375 4084 0.596 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R910 105.0 16.1 1.04 1037 47.4 18111 3750 0.601 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110 105.0 18.7 1.21 1037 44.9 16867 4137 0.617
Winchester 296 105.0 18.7 1.21 1034 40.7 17006 4115 0.617
ADI AR 2205 105.0 16.6 1.07 1017 48.5 18345 3573 0.606 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 105.0 18.1 1.17 1017 44.1 16867 3952 0.619
Accurate 5744 103.0 16.0 1.04 1006 41.2 18375 3515 0.613 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 105.0 17.4 1.13 968 40.0 15275 3460 0.649
Somchem S265 105.0 16.0 1.04 942 44.3 14869 3317 0.681
Vihtavuori N110 105.0 14.8 0.96 929 44.7 13192 3308 0.690
Accurate 1680 105.0 18.7 1.21 925 31.2 16409 2770 0.646
IMR 4227 105.0 16.0 1.03 916 36.4 14553 2783 0.672
Hodgdon H4227 105.0 16.0 1.03 888 34.3 13644 2631 0.692
Hodgdon H4198 105.0 16.4 1.06 824 28.2 12127 2185 0.733
IMR 4198 105.0 15.6 1.01 791 27.8 10740 2053 0.770
Accurate 2200 105.0 17.7 1.15 781 23.5 11370 1969 0.764
ADI AR 2207 105.0 16.3 1.06 769 26.1 10004 2035 0.795
ADI BM2 105.0 18.6 1.20 768 22.4 11056 1905 0.775
Vihtavuori N120 105.0 15.9 1.03 759 27.3 9724 1958 0.803
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 105.0 17.9 1.16 755 21.7 10414 1855 0.792
ADI AR 2219 105.0 18.0 1.17 740 20.6 10416 1734 0.798
ADI AR 2210 105.0 18.0 1.17 735 20.8 10159 1740 0.806
Kazan Sunar 308W 105.0 17.1 1.10 730 23.6 9427 1791 0.828
Alliant Reloder- 7 105.0 16.9 1.09 730 26.2 7983 2203 0.867
PB Clermont PCL 508 105.0 18.7 1.21 727 19.7 9957 1699 0.813
SNPE Vectan SP 10 105.0 18.6 1.21 727 19.7 9938 1700 0.813
Ramshot X-Terminator 105.0 18.0 1.17 721 20.2 9541 1696 0.825
Hodgdon H335 105.0 19.0 1.23 721 19.2 10089 1650 0.813
ADI AR 2206H 105.0 17.4 1.13 708 20.6 9228 1601 0.841
Hodgdon Benchmark 105.0 17.2 1.11 701 20.4 8839 1605 0.853
Bofors RP1/NP ~approximation 105.0 18.0 1.17 698 20.0 8604 1720 0.861
Norma 200 105.0 18.0 1.17 698 20.0 8604 1720 0.861
Alliant Reloder-12 105.0 17.8 1.15 694 19.8 8929 1548 0.854
ADI AR 2206 105.0 17.2 1.12 694 20.0 8797 1546 0.858
Vihtavuori N130 105.0 16.3 1.06 693 22.1 8379 1605 0.872
Hodgdon H322 105.0 16.9 1.10 693 19.4 8820 1539 0.856
Alliant Reloder-10x 105.0 16.4 1.07 686 20.2 8183 1589 0.877
SF-033 fl 105.0 17.8 1.15 675 18.7 8355 1494 0.883
Ramshot TAC 105.0 18.3 1.18 674 17.1 8601 1437 0.876
Vihtavuori N530 105.0 17.5 1.14 671 17.2 8571 1430 0.877
PB Clermont PCL 507 105.0 18.2 1.18 668 16.9 8445 1414 0.883
Winchester 748 105.0 18.8 1.22 664 15.9 8741 1356 0.875
Vihtavuori N133 105.0 16.0 1.03 657 20.2 7698 1391 0.911
Somchem S321 105.0 18.8 1.22 656 16.1 8326 1370 0.891
SNPE Vectan SP 9 105.0 18.0 1.17 640 15.6 7806 1286 0.916
Accurate 2015 105.0 16.9 1.09 639 17.6 7394 1349 0.931
IMR 4895 105.0 16.9 1.09 638 15.9 7741 1246 0.920
Accurate 2230 105.0 18.7 1.21 638 15.4 8211 1276 0.902
Somchem S341 105.0 18.8 1.22 635 15.1 8121 1224 0.908
ADI AR 2208 105.0 16.9 1.10 631 16.1 7406 1252 0.937
Hodgdon VARGET 105.0 16.9 1.09 629 16.0 7348 1245 0.940
Somchem S335 105.0 17.1 1.10 627 17.7 7107 1297 0.942
PB Clermont PCL 516 105.0 18.6 1.20 627 14.4 7804 1204 0.922
Norma 202 105.0 17.1 1.11 625 16.1 7221 1255 0.945
Hodgdon H4895 105.0 16.9 1.09 623 16.3 7200 1217 0.941
IMR 4320 105.0 17.1 1.11 622 15.2 7442 1185 0.939
Hodgdon BL-C2 105.0 19.0 1.23 619 13.9 7676 1192 0.933
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 105.0 18.7 1.21 618 14.3 7568 1212 0.941
Vihtavuori N540 105.0 17.6 1.14 616 15.9 7065 1229 0.958
Norma 201 105.0 17.8 1.15 614 14.8 7123 1227 0.955
Accurate 2460 105.0 18.7 1.21 607 14.0 7363 1166 0.954
IMR 4064 105.0 16.5 1.07 607 15.1 6879 1148 0.968
IMR 3031 105.0 16.3 1.06 605 15.1 6772 1154 0.972
Alliant Reloder-15 105.0 17.4 1.13 598 13.6 6817 1117 0.971
Raufoss RA11 105.0 17.4 1.13 598 13.6 6817 1117 0.971
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 105.0 17.4 1.13 598 13.6 6817 1117 0.971
Norma 203B 105.0 17.4 1.13 593 13.5 6691 1098 0.980
SNPE Vectan SP 11 105.0 18.0 1.17 588 13.0 6762 1057 0.982
Vihtavuori N140 105.0 16.7 1.09 586 14.9 6477 1070 1.000
Hodgdon H414 105.0 18.6 1.20 579 11.8 6808 1011 0.991
Rottweil R901 105.0 16.6 1.07 578 14.5 5859 1157 1.034
Rottweil R902 105.0 16.8 1.09 576 13.9 6170 1072 1.012
Ramshot BigGame 105.0 17.4 1.13 572 12.7 6313 1003 1.010
IMR 4007 SSC 105.0 17.7 1.15 570 12.3 6502 992 1.012
Accurate 2520 105.0 18.0 1.16 570 12.6 6466 1001 1.014
Hodgdon H380 105.0 17.8 1.15 565 12.0 6383 976 1.020
Accurate 2700 105.0 18.0 1.17 563 12.5 6496 945 1.014
Winchester 760 105.0 18.4 1.19 558 10.8 6442 914 1.020
Vihtavuori N135 105.0 15.8 1.02 555 14.2 5742 963 1.053
Somchem S355 105.0 17.1 1.10 554 12.4 5894 958 1.053
Rottweil R907 105.0 17.1 1.11 554 12.0 6046 939 1.044
Ramshot Hunter 105.0 18.6 1.20 547 10.7 6157 886 1.042
Vihtavuori N550 105.0 17.8 1.15 542 11.0 5837 896 1.062
Norma 204 105.0 18.0 1.17 541 10.5 6132 853 1.048
Hodgdon H4350 105.0 17.3 1.12 541 10.9 5960 863 1.058
Vihtavuori N150 105.0 16.4 1.07 538 12.9 5581 894 1.073
Norma 203 old 105.0 17.6 1.14 534 11.0 5740 870 1.072
Norma URP 105.0 17.2 1.12 529 10.8 5594 837 1.085
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 17.2 1.12 529 10.8 5591 836 1.085
Rottweil R904 105.0 17.2 1.11 528 10.6 5720 813 1.080
IMR 4350 105.0 16.7 1.08 527 10.6 5535 816 1.090
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 17.4 1.13 526 10.3 5708 808 1.081
Raufoss RA4 105.0 17.4 1.13 526 10.3 5708 808 1.081
ADI AR 2209 105.0 17.3 1.12 522 10.1 5644 791 1.087
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 17.4 1.13 517 10.0 5437 787 1.102
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 17.4 1.13 513 9.9 5360 770 1.110
Rottweil R903 105.0 16.7 1.09 510 10.6 5185 786 1.122
Somchem S365 105.0 17.3 1.12 496 9.7 5094 717 1.140
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 17.6 1.14 493 8.9 5255 688 1.133
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 16.7 1.08 492 9.9 4985 694 1.154
Accurate 2495 105.0 16.5 1.07 492 10.1 4799 756 1.166
ADI AR 2213 105.0 17.6 1.14 490 8.5 5208 678 1.144
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 17.9 1.16 483 8.0 5167 642 1.151
Accurate 4064 105.0 16.3 1.06 478 9.8 4483 702 1.194
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 16.9 1.10 478 8.7 4858 646 1.171
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 17.8 1.15 476 7.7 4865 638 1.185
Somchem S385 105.0 17.6 1.14 475 8.6 4816 645 1.184
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 17.6 1.14 473 8.1 4767 638 1.187
Raufoss RA15 105.0 17.6 1.14 473 8.1 4767 638 1.187
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 17.6 1.14 473 8.1 4767 638 1.187
IMR 4831 105.0 16.7 1.08 471 8.9 4585 640 1.196
Norma MRP 105.0 18.2 1.18 471 7.7 4830 628 1.195
Rottweil R905 105.0 17.3 1.12 465 7.9 4710 603 1.198
Winchester WXR 105.0 17.2 1.12 464 8.0 4551 615 1.211
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 17.2 1.12 464 8.7 4648 602 1.202
IMR 7828 105.0 16.9 1.10 462 7.8 4639 590 1.206
Accurate 4350 105.0 16.7 1.08 457 8.1 4480 596 1.224
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 18.5 1.20 452 6.7 4633 556 1.224
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 17.3 1.12 448 7.7 4343 565 1.246
ADI AP 2214 105.0 18.1 1.17 446 7.1 4689 532 1.233
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 17.2 1.12 430 7.0 4269 493 1.286
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 18.6 1.21 427 6.2 4460 481 1.270
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 18.6 1.21 426 6.2 4449 479 1.272
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 105.0 18.6 1.20 426 6.2 4437 478 1.273
Norma MRP 2 105.0 17.4 1.13 416 6.2 3947 468 1.324
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 17.5 1.14 409 6.3 3844 449 1.349
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 18.6 1.20 405 5.4 4064 422 1.341
Accurate 3100 105.0 16.5 1.07 405 6.8 3735 445 1.369
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 17.2 1.12 404 6.1 3782 434 1.359
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 18.4 1.19 403 5.1 3930 421 1.349
ADI AR 2218 105.0 18.6 1.20 391 4.8 3889 385 1.373
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 17.7 1.15 383 4.8 3634 372 1.412
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 18.6 1.20 381 5.0 3649 369 1.418
Hodgdon H870 105.0 18.0 1.17 379 4.9 3536 368 1.432
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 17.1 1.10 373 4.5 3526 321 1.444
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 17.8 1.15 365 4.9 3375 335 1.482
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 17.1 1.10 362 4.4 3350 307 1.488
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 17.8 1.15 359 4.7 3312 321 1.499
Accurate 8700 105.0 17.8 1.16 355 4.6 3326 307 1.506
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 18.8 1.22 344 4.0 3259 285 1.555
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 17.1 1.10 298 2.6 2772 175 1.751








Cartridge : .45 Auto (ACP) (SAAMI)
Bullet : .451, 230, Hornady HP/XTP 45160
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.275 inch or 32.39 mm
Barrel Length : 5.0 inch or 127.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 18374 psi, or 126 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

51 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma R123 103.6 14.1 0.91 1047 74.7 18375 5352 0.647 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N105 99.6 10.6 0.69 971 76.1 18375 4020 0.660 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil J706 91.0 7.4 0.48 968 99.9 18375 3583 0.703 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 97.1 13.4 0.87 948 58.4 18375 3822 0.667 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 512 103.0 13.4 0.87 948 58.5 18375 3808 0.668 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400 94.4 12.2 0.79 944 58.6 18375 3723 0.672 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 93.1 10.3 0.67 931 67.8 18375 3579 0.682 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 98.0 13.7 0.89 917 53.4 18375 3440 0.675 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110 105.0 15.3 0.99 895 47.0 16740 3505 0.699
Rottweil R910 105.0 13.2 0.85 893 49.7 18041 3174 0.684 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 296 105.0 15.3 0.99 892 42.7 16878 3494 0.699
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 105.0 14.8 0.96 878 46.6 16758 3394 0.704
ADI AR 2205 105.0 13.6 0.88 874 50.4 18271 2995 0.689 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744 103.1 13.1 0.85 866 42.8 18375 2954 0.697 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 105.0 14.3 0.92 834 41.8 15191 2922 0.739
Somchem S265 105.0 13.1 0.85 812 46.2 14808 2785 0.771
Vihtavuori N110 105.0 12.1 0.78 802 47.2 13160 2819 0.778
Accurate 1680 105.0 15.3 0.99 794 32.5 16303 2331 0.737
IMR 4227 105.0 13.0 0.85 788 38.0 14503 2341 0.763
Hodgdon H4227 105.0 13.0 0.85 764 35.9 13597 2216 0.785
Hodgdon H4198 105.0 13.4 0.87 708 29.4 12082 1833 0.838
IMR 4198 105.0 12.8 0.83 680 29.0 10708 1725 0.881
Accurate 2200 105.0 14.5 0.94 670 24.5 11313 1658 0.872
ADI AR 2207 105.0 13.3 0.86 662 27.4 9968 1725 0.905
ADI BM2 105.0 15.2 0.98 659 23.4 10991 1604 0.884
Vihtavuori N120 105.0 13.0 0.84 653 28.7 9692 1656 0.918
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 105.0 14.6 0.95 648 22.7 10364 1563 0.903
ADI AR 2219 105.0 14.7 0.95 635 21.5 10359 1458 0.912
Alliant Reloder- 7 105.0 13.8 0.89 631 28.0 7945 1914 0.980
ADI AR 2210 105.0 14.7 0.95 631 21.7 10107 1466 0.924
Kazan Sunar 308W 105.0 13.9 0.90 628 24.7 9387 1515 0.942
PB Clermont PCL 508 105.0 15.3 0.99 624 20.5 9899 1430 0.932
SNPE Vectan SP 10 105.0 15.2 0.99 624 20.5 9880 1432 0.933
Ramshot X-Terminator 105.0 14.8 0.96 620 21.1 9492 1429 0.946
Hodgdon H335 105.0 15.6 1.01 619 20.0 10028 1389 0.933
ADI AR 2206H 105.0 14.3 0.92 608 21.5 9187 1345 0.959
Hodgdon Benchmark 105.0 14.0 0.91 603 21.3 8802 1353 0.972
Bofors RP1/NP ~approximation 105.0 14.8 0.96 601 21.0 8558 1467 0.983
Norma 200 105.0 14.8 0.96 601 21.0 8558 1467 0.983
Alliant Reloder-12 105.0 14.5 0.94 596 20.7 8887 1303 0.975
ADI AR 2206 105.0 14.1 0.91 596 20.8 8759 1301 0.978
Vihtavuori N130 105.0 13.3 0.86 596 23.2 8359 1357 0.992
Hodgdon H322 105.0 13.8 0.90 595 20.2 8784 1294 0.982
Alliant Reloder-10x 105.0 13.5 0.87 590 21.2 8152 1346 1.005
SF-033 fl 105.0 14.6 0.94 580 19.6 8315 1262 1.005
Ramshot TAC 105.0 15.0 0.97 578 17.8 8558 1209 0.998
Vihtavuori N530 105.0 14.3 0.93 576 17.9 8533 1203 1.000
PB Clermont PCL 507 105.0 14.9 0.96 574 17.6 8405 1189 1.006
Winchester 748 105.0 15.3 0.99 569 16.5 8691 1137 1.003
Vihtavuori N133 105.0 13.0 0.85 565 21.1 7675 1171 1.038
Somchem S321 105.0 15.3 0.99 563 16.7 8279 1155 1.020
SNPE Vectan SP 9 105.0 14.7 0.95 550 16.3 7769 1080 1.045
Accurate 2015 105.0 13.8 0.89 549 18.5 7364 1142 1.060
IMR 4895 105.0 13.8 0.89 547 16.5 7712 1043 1.050
Accurate 2230 105.0 15.3 0.99 547 16.0 8165 1075 1.039
Somchem S341 105.0 15.3 0.99 545 15.7 8077 1025 1.042
ADI AR 2208 105.0 13.8 0.90 541 16.7 7378 1052 1.068
Hodgdon VARGET 105.0 13.8 0.89 540 16.7 7321 1046 1.071
Somchem S335 105.0 13.9 0.90 539 18.5 7079 1097 1.082
PB Clermont PCL 516 105.0 15.2 0.98 537 14.9 7764 1010 1.061
Norma 202 105.0 14.0 0.91 537 16.8 7192 1059 1.077
Hodgdon H4895 105.0 13.8 0.89 535 17.0 7174 1022 1.082
IMR 4320 105.0 14.0 0.91 533 15.8 7413 993 1.072
Hodgdon BL-C2 105.0 15.6 1.01 531 14.5 7632 1003 1.070
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 105.0 15.3 0.99 530 14.9 7526 1023 1.073
Vihtavuori N540 105.0 14.4 0.93 530 16.6 7035 1039 1.091
Norma 201 105.0 14.6 0.94 527 15.4 7092 1038 1.092
Accurate 2460 105.0 15.3 0.99 521 14.7 7321 983 1.089
IMR 4064 105.0 13.5 0.87 521 15.8 6856 963 1.104
IMR 3031 105.0 13.3 0.86 520 15.8 6751 970 1.108
Alliant Reloder-15 105.0 14.3 0.92 514 14.1 6789 939 1.118
Raufoss RA11 105.0 14.3 0.92 514 14.1 6789 939 1.118
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 105.0 14.3 0.92 514 14.1 6789 939 1.118
Norma 203B 105.0 14.3 0.92 509 14.0 6665 924 1.128
SNPE Vectan SP 11 105.0 14.7 0.95 504 13.6 6732 887 1.130
Vihtavuori N140 105.0 13.7 0.89 503 15.5 6454 899 1.140
Rottweil R901 105.0 13.5 0.88 498 15.3 5839 987 1.173
Hodgdon H414 105.0 15.2 0.98 496 12.2 6776 848 1.137
Rottweil R902 105.0 13.7 0.89 495 14.5 6148 906 1.165
Ramshot BigGame 105.0 14.3 0.92 491 13.3 6288 842 1.164
IMR 4007 SSC 105.0 14.5 0.94 489 12.8 6476 833 1.154
Accurate 2520 105.0 14.7 0.95 489 13.2 6439 841 1.156
Hodgdon H380 105.0 14.6 0.94 484 12.5 6355 820 1.164
Accurate 2700 105.0 14.7 0.95 482 13.0 6459 792 1.164
Winchester 760 105.0 15.1 0.98 478 11.3 6411 764 1.171
Vihtavuori N135 105.0 12.9 0.84 477 14.8 5727 810 1.201
Somchem S355 105.0 13.9 0.90 476 13.0 5873 806 1.198
Rottweil R907 105.0 14.0 0.91 475 12.5 6026 788 1.190
Ramshot Hunter 105.0 15.2 0.98 469 11.1 6135 742 1.196
Vihtavuori N550 105.0 14.6 0.94 465 11.5 5814 752 1.217
Norma 204 105.0 14.7 0.95 463 10.9 6108 713 1.204
Hodgdon H4350 105.0 14.2 0.92 463 11.3 5938 722 1.214
Vihtavuori N150 105.0 13.5 0.87 462 13.4 5564 752 1.237
Norma 203 old 105.0 14.4 0.93 458 11.5 5715 732 1.230
Norma URP 105.0 14.1 0.91 453 11.2 5574 701 1.244
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 14.1 0.91 453 11.2 5571 701 1.245
Rottweil R904 105.0 14.1 0.91 452 11.0 5698 678 1.239
IMR 4350 105.0 13.7 0.88 451 11.1 5512 681 1.250
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 14.3 0.92 451 10.7 5688 676 1.241
Raufoss RA4 105.0 14.3 0.92 451 10.7 5688 676 1.241
ADI AR 2209 105.0 14.2 0.92 447 10.4 5624 661 1.249
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 14.3 0.92 443 10.4 5418 658 1.272
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 14.3 0.92 439 10.3 5340 644 1.283
Rottweil R903 105.0 13.7 0.89 437 11.0 5170 660 1.287
Somchem S365 105.0 14.2 0.92 425 10.1 5076 599 1.318
Accurate 2495 105.0 13.5 0.87 422 10.6 4785 639 1.336
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 14.4 0.93 422 9.3 5236 574 1.311
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 13.7 0.89 422 10.2 4971 579 1.325
ADI AR 2213 105.0 14.4 0.93 419 8.8 5190 566 1.315
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 14.6 0.95 413 8.3 5147 534 1.333
Accurate 4064 105.0 13.3 0.86 410 10.2 4472 592 1.379
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 13.9 0.90 409 9.1 4844 539 1.356
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 14.6 0.94 407 8.0 4848 532 1.359
Somchem S385 105.0 14.4 0.93 407 9.0 4799 539 1.360
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 14.4 0.93 405 8.4 4751 533 1.364
Raufoss RA15 105.0 14.4 0.93 405 8.4 4751 533 1.364
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 14.4 0.93 405 8.4 4751 533 1.364
IMR 4831 105.0 13.7 0.88 404 9.3 4573 535 1.384
Norma MRP 105.0 14.9 0.96 403 8.0 4811 524 1.371
Rottweil R905 105.0 14.1 0.92 398 8.2 4695 502 1.378
Winchester WXR 105.0 14.1 0.91 397 8.3 4537 513 1.391
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 14.1 0.91 397 9.0 4633 501 1.392
IMR 7828 105.0 13.9 0.90 395 8.0 4625 490 1.387
Accurate 4350 105.0 13.6 0.88 391 8.5 4468 498 1.407
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 15.2 0.98 386 7.0 4615 462 1.413
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 14.2 0.92 384 8.0 4330 471 1.432
ADI AP 2214 105.0 14.8 0.96 381 7.4 4672 442 1.419
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 14.1 0.91 367 7.2 4257 409 1.479
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 15.2 0.99 364 6.4 4443 400 1.476
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 15.2 0.99 364 6.4 4432 398 1.478
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 105.0 15.2 0.98 363 6.4 4420 398 1.479
Norma MRP 2 105.0 14.3 0.92 356 6.5 3936 389 1.537
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 14.3 0.93 350 6.5 3833 373 1.567
Accurate 3100 105.0 13.5 0.87 346 7.0 3727 371 1.573
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 15.2 0.98 346 5.6 4050 350 1.544
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 14.1 0.91 345 6.3 3772 361 1.580
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 15.0 0.97 345 5.3 3917 349 1.559
ADI AR 2218 105.0 15.2 0.98 334 5.0 3876 319 1.599
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 14.5 0.94 327 5.0 3625 308 1.644
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 15.2 0.98 325 5.1 3641 306 1.641
Hodgdon H870 105.0 14.7 0.95 323 5.1 3529 305 1.668
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 13.9 0.90 318 4.6 3515 262 1.671
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 14.6 0.94 311 5.0 3367 278 1.715
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 13.9 0.90 309 4.5 3343 251 1.722
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 14.6 0.94 306 4.8 3304 266 1.747
Accurate 8700 105.0 14.6 0.95 303 4.8 3318 253 1.757
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 15.3 0.99 293 4.2 3251 236 1.786
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 13.9 0.90 253 2.7 2768 142 2.040

 

[JD338]

Thanks Pop!

JD338

 

[normo]

I have great luck with 5.5gr of Win 231, I load 185gr SWC, 200gr RNFP, and 230gr TMJ with it.
Shoot fairly clean and great accuracy and control

 

[big rifle man]

JD, I'm running 5.3 - 5.4 grns of 231 with the 230 grain ball round in my 4" Pro carry and find that accuracy is very good and powder burn is exceptionally clean. I've also used 6.0 grains of universal clays and found that to be exceptionally clean. Both loads function the slide with a 22lb spring.

 

[FOTIS]

I have yet to figure out a way of excluding the obviously ridiculous powder options for handgun loads....Example rl 25 for the 45 ACP :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Ol` Joe]

If you want clean, I`d try either VV-n320 or n340 with n340 being a bit slower and likely easier to achive your target velocity with. I use n320 with 200 gr LSWC for target and it is amazing how clean burning it is. N340 works great for 185 gr defence loads and is similar to PowerPistol in burn rate. I haven`t loaded a 230 gr in some time and never with either of these VV powders. PowerPistol is a very good choice though for the 230, but dirtier then the VV powders.

I have never tried Universal Clays, but have heard it is a very clean burning powder in the acp from quite a few shooters. You might take a look at, it if price or availablity of the VV powders is a concern.

 

[JD338]

Thanks fellas.
I appreciate all your inputs.

JD338

 

[JD338]

Pop,

When you get time, would you mind running Win 231 with a Win 230 gr FMJ in 45 ACP for me. Primers are Win WLP.

Kimber Tactical Pro II 4" barrel with stock springs.

Thanks for your assistance.

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge : .45 Auto (ACP) (SAAMI)
Bullet : .451, 250, Nosler JHP 43013
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.275 inch or 32.39 mm
Barrel Length : 4.0 inch or 101.6 mm
Powder : Winchester 231

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 43 4.00 641 228 11498 2331 95.3 0.789
-18.0 44 4.10 653 237 12002 2396 95.9 0.773
-16.0 46 4.20 666 246 12520 2460 96.5 0.758
-14.0 47 4.30 678 255 13052 2523 97.0 0.743
-12.0 48 4.40 690 264 13600 2585 97.5 0.729
-10.0 49 4.50 702 274 14162 2646 97.9 0.716
-08.0 50 4.60 714 283 14739 2705 98.3 0.703
-06.0 51 4.70 726 293 15332 2763 98.6 0.690
-04.0 52 4.80 738 302 15940 2820 98.9 0.678
-02.0 53 4.90 749 312 16563 2874 99.2 0.666
+00.0 54 5.00 761 321 17203 2928 99.4 0.652
+02.0 55 5.10 772 331 17858 2980 99.6 0.641 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 56 5.20 783 340 18530 3031 99.8 0.631 ! Near Maximum !
+06.0 57 5.30 794 350 19217 3080 99.9 0.621 ! Near Maximum !
+08.0 59 5.40 805 360 19922 3127 99.9 0.611 ! Near Maximum !
+10.0 60 5.50 816 370 20643 3173 100.0 0.602 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 54 5.00 787 343 19604 2851 100.0 0.620 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 54 5.00 725 292 14822 2899 95.7 0.695

 

[JD338]

Pop,

Does QL show any data for W231 with a 230 gr FMJ?

JD338

 

[JD338]

I ran 5.1 grs and 5.4 grs W 231 with 230 gr W-W FMJ through the Kimber with out a hitch. Both shot very well and very clean.
I will run them through the Ohler 35 once the snow is gone and let you know that velocity I am getting through the 4" barrel.

JD338

 

[BK]

I think I used W231 also when I loaded a bunch of LSWCs a long time ago. I say I think, because I have a Dillon Border Shift ammo bag that was full, and I have not needed to load any more.

Guess I need to shoot more .45 auto.

 

[JD338]

Guess I need to shoot more .45 auto.

One can never have enough 45 ACP ammo. Too much fun to shoot. :lol:

JD338

 

[BK]

One can never have enough 45 ACP ammo.

I dunno. When the bag is too heavy for my dad to pick up, that might be a problem! :grin:

 

[yeayow]

Cartridge : .45 Auto (ACP) (SAAMI)
Bullet : .451, 230, Nosler FMJ 42064
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.275 inch or 32.39 mm
Barrel Length : 5.0 inch or 127.0 mm
Powder : Winchester 231

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 37 4.00 665 226 9381 1798 94.0 0.951
-18.0 38 4.10 678 235 9769 1850 94.6 0.932
-16.0 39 4.20 691 244 10168 1901 95.2 0.914
-14.0 40 4.30 703 253 10578 1951 95.8 0.897
-12.0 41 4.40 716 262 10998 2001 96.3 0.881
-10.0 42 4.50 729 271 11429 2049 96.8 0.865
-08.0 43 4.60 741 280 11871 2097 97.3 0.850
-06.0 44 4.70 753 290 12325 2144 97.7 0.835
-04.0 45 4.80 766 299 12789 2190 98.1 0.821
-02.0 46 4.90 778 309 13265 2235 98.4 0.807
+00.0 47 5.00 790 318 13752 2280 98.7 0.794
+02.0 48 5.10 801 328 14250 2323 99.0 0.781
+04.0 49 5.20 813 338 14760 2365 99.2 0.769
+06.0 50 5.30 824 347 15281 2406 99.4 0.757
+08.0 50 5.40 836 357 15815 2446 99.6 0.745
+10.0 51 5.50 847 367 16360 2485 99.8 0.734

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 47 5.00 819 342 15638 2236 100.0 0.751
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 47 5.00 751 288 11900 2235 94.3 0.841