6mm Remington?

Guy Miner

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Apr 6, 2006
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So... Would Nosler consider throwing their weight behind the good ol' 6mm Remington by selling high-quality brass, custom ammo and..... RIFLES chambered for that terrific multi-purpose cartridge?

Make it with these loads:

55 grain Ballistic Tip loaded to an honest 4,000+ fps
70 grain Ballistic Tip loaded to 3,500+ fps
95 grain Ballistic Tip loaded to 3,000+ fps
100 grain Nosler Partition loaded to 3,000+ fps

Light recoil. Deadly on deer, coyotes, wild hogs, and varmints. Accurate as all get out too. Wonderful cartridge, just a tad more zip than the .243 Win, and a lot of class.

C'mon Nosler... :grin:
 
That would be a nice deer rifle! I wouldn't be surprised if Nosler built a rifle in 6mm Rem. It is a classic. Scotty
 
Guy,

You nailed it. The 6mm Remington is a classic cartridge for the discriminating hunter.

JD338
 
I always loved the 6mm. It has a lot more than the 243. Remington screwed the pooch with the initial slow twist.
 
Plus 4 to what each of you have said. I own one 6mm and my son has two. I am looking to purchase another one for me as one is not enough! It is a better cartridge than the .243 Win (sorry .243 fans). My father owns both 6mm and 243 and hands down he likes the 6mm better. That being said from prairie dogs to coyotes to deer and antelope it is absolutely perfect! It has plenty of downrange oomph, accuracy, and also shoots very flat.

Rifles for it:
Ruger #1B in 6mm Ruger Model 77 MKII - 6mm MKII with laminate stock & stainless, 24" tube

Remington: Model 700 MTN rifle stainelss wood laminate- 6mm 700 CDL stainelss wood laminate 24" barrel

Winchester: Model 70 Extreme Weather SS in 6mm Remingon.

How did I do guys! :grin:
 
Guy Miner said:
55 grain Ballistic Tip loaded to an honest 4,000+ fps
70 grain Ballistic Tip loaded to 3,500+ fps
95 grain Ballistic Tip loaded to 3,000+ fps
100 grain Nosler Partition loaded to 3,000+ fps
Guy Miner said:
Guy I like your thinking but I would have to add a couple more bullets to this list.

90 grain Nosler E-Tip loaded to 3050-3100 fps
90 0r 95 grain Nosler AccuBond loaded to 3050-3100 fps- as soon as they start making the AccuBond!! :)
 
POP":r06ghl5w said:
I always loved the 6mm. It has a lot more than the 243. Remington screwed the pooch with the initial slow twist.

"ALOT MORE"?????

6mm rem 105 grainer 2,056 ft/lbs @muzzle
243 win. 105 grainer 2,080 ft/lbs @muzzle
6mm rem. 55 grainer 1,985 ft/lbs @muzzle
.243 win 55 grainer 2,012 ft/lbs @muzzle

So where's "ALOT" more?
 
Yeah, much as I enjoy the 6mm, there's not all that much difference between the two in the field.

I think that a guy can find more velocity from the 6mm than the .243 in most loading manuals, but it usually boils down to a minor difference. Still, I just like that classic case with the long neck.

Regards, Guy
 
My hunting buddy in Glendive Montana has a 6mm BDL (he says it's his wife's) that I have been trying to talk him out of for about 20 years. When I ask his wife, she says...sell it!!! One of these days....
 
100 grain Hornady BT at 3248 fps with 48 gr of reloder 22.
To me that will trump any 243 out there.
 
My son is using the 90 gr. Nosler E-tip in his 6mm Remington with H100V Hodgdon powder 45.5 grs for 3180 fps in a 22" barrel on his Ruger Mark II!
In my Ruger #1B with 43.0 grs of IMR4350 and 100 gr. Partition it Chronographs right at 3100 fps.

My little Remington Model 600 Centennial with the 18 1/2 inch barrel shooting IMR4350 43.0 grs behind a 100 gr. Partition chronographs right at 2800 fps. Now my dad has a load in his 243 with a 100 gr. bullet. I do not know what the load is, but in a 22 inch barrel it only was 100 fps faster than my load in my little Remington I have nicknamed the Daisy Red Ryder with its 18.5 inch barrel!! I have also shot some factory 243 in several rifles in 100 gr. weights and 2850-2900 is what they were coming out at. I have to admit we all have favorites and the 6mm is mine, but to me it is just a bit faster and I believe the case design is better. I also have had no problems getting 6mm's to shoot very very well. Just one mans opinion.. :?
 
boolit":39o3r9ft said:
POP":39o3r9ft said:
I always loved the 6mm. It has a lot more than the 243. Remington screwed the pooch with the initial slow twist.

"ALOT MORE"?????

6mm rem 105 grainer 2,056 ft/lbs @muzzle
243 win. 105 grainer 2,080 ft/lbs @muzzle
6mm rem. 55 grainer 1,985 ft/lbs @muzzle
.243 win 55 grainer 2,012 ft/lbs @muzzle

So where's "ALOT" more?

Your data is skewed big time as far as maximum reloading potential is concerned.
 
POP":3b89s2kj said:
boolit":3b89s2kj said:
POP":3b89s2kj said:
I always loved the 6mm. It has a lot more than the 243. Remington screwed the pooch with the initial slow twist.

"ALOT MORE"?????

6mm rem 105 grainer 2,056 ft/lbs @muzzle
243 win. 105 grainer 2,080 ft/lbs @muzzle
6mm rem. 55 grainer 1,985 ft/lbs @muzzle
.243 win 55 grainer 2,012 ft/lbs @muzzle

So where's "ALOT" more?

Your data is skewed big time as far as maximum reloading potential is concerned.


Oh so you want Sierra, Hornady, Speer, NOSLER, Lyman, Lee, etc.... And they are ALL screwed up too, right? :roll: Yeah OK. Unless I missed Pops data... I dying to see this... I wondering why the .243 was used for compitition and the 6 wasn't?
 
No matter how you slice it the 6mm remington has more case capacity than the 243 win. They both work at about the same pressures. Given the same barrel length the 6mm will always outperform the 243 win.
How do you figure your quoted energy if the 6mm is faster to begin thin at the muzzle with the same bullet?

Common sense applies here.

Of course if you're comparing a Remington 600 18.5" barrel 6mm and a Ruger #1B 26" 243 then yeah.

Another way of putting it. If the 308 win and 30-06 were loaded to the gills (max pressures in both) is it possible that the 308 is faster than the 30-06? NO!
Analogically speaking this is what you're claiming!

You wrote:
I wondering why the .243 was used for competition and the 6 wasn't?

What does this have to do with performance? We were not discussing accuracy here.
 
Actually there are some guys using the 6mm Rem in competition, but as always, the .243 is more popular. Neither is super popular anymore though, for target competition.

Both cartridges are good, and appear capable of about the same tasks afield. For instance, I'd shoot a mule deer at 300 yards with either. And I'd pass on a 500 yard shot with either, no matter how accurate the rifle. With either I'd take coyotes or rock chucks happily.

Two different cases to do about the same thing and I like them both.

Regards, Guy
 
If I had to choose between the two, I would pick the 6mm over the 243. Unfortunately, when I was looking for a bolt gun for my son, the 243 is alot more available, so that is what I got. I can't really see much difference between the two realistically. I like the 6mm for the neck and also the extra powder space. My uncle is a one rifle hunter in NY and has hunted with a M700 6mm Rem for about 30 years or more. Has never needed more for deer or black bear in the Adirondacks or Catskills. Pretty slick rifle too. Scotty
 
POP":efp59uu4 said:
No matter how you slice it the 6mm remington has more case capacity than the 243 win. They both work at about the same pressures. Given the same barrel length the 6mm will always outperform the 243 win.
How do you figure your quoted energy if the 6mm is faster to begin thin at the muzzle with the same bullet?

Common sense applies here.

Of course if you're comparing a Remington 600 18.5" barrel 6mm and a Ruger #1B 26" 243 then yeah.

Another way of putting it. If the 308 win and 30-06 were loaded to the gills (max pressures in both) is it possible that the 308 is faster than the 30-06? NO!
Analogically speaking this is what you're claiming!

You wrote:
I wondering why the .243 was used for competition and the 6 wasn't?

What does this have to do with performance? We were not discussing accuracy here.
So how much more...?????(No matter how you slice it the 6mm remington has more case capacity than the 243 win) The 243 is shorter and fatter, and the 6 is taller and leaner.... ?? right? Common sense applies here POP.
So I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMON SENSE? You never responed to the data from the 4 other manuals, did you?!!
Admit that thers no major difference. You didn't list any MAJOR difference because there ain't none! Because there's only a Marginal difference. Sir.
 
Another way of putting it. If the 308 win and 30-06 were loaded to the gills (max pressures in both) is it possible that the 308 is faster than the 30-06? NO!



Are you serious? Comparing the 06 and the 308 to the 243 and the 6mm? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah Ok... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
boolit":39lj3shm said:
Another way of putting it. If the 308 win and 30-06 were loaded to the gills (max pressures in both) is it possible that the 308 is faster than the 30-06? NO!



Are you serious? Comparing the 06 and the 308 to the 243 and the 6mm? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah Ok... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am not comparing them, Mr. Boolit!

You forgot to quote this part of my post

Analogically speaking this is what you're claiming!

Key word being analogically as in analogy not proportionate. You do know what that means right?
In lamest terms...... If one case has more capacity than the other the more capacious case will outperform the other.
 
POP":1w9uptxa said:
100 grain Hornady BT at 3248 fps with 48 gr of reloder 22.
To me that will trump any 243 out there.

Unless I need glasses they push the same velocity with RL22. The 6mm takes 48 grains for 3000 fps and the 243 takes 45.3.
for 3000 fps.
:roll:
 
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