A QuickLoad request for a .30-338 Lapua Imp. please

IdahoCTD

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Nov 4, 2004
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If someone can manage it I'd like a Quickload run on my .30-338 Lapua Imp. with 230 Berger's and WC872, 869, R-50, R-33, and H5010 powders. The water capacity is 123.5grs to the top of the case. It's a standard 338 Lapua necked down with a 35 degree shoulder angle and a .572" shoulder dimension. I ran up to 111grs of 872 last weekend and got 3333fps out of the 230 Berger's (it's a 33" barrel) but I'd like to try R-50 and H5010 to see what they do. I'm not a huge fan of ball powders but some cases will only get their top velocities using them. It's plenty accurate with the 872. It shot 5 of the 7 shots from 108grs to 110grs into the low .2's. One was a clean bore shot and was out about 3/8" and the other I pulled. Not bad for 3 charge weights and 104fps variance.
 
Here's what's there.
I used the overflow capacity you gave and a 33 barrel.

Cartridge : .30-338 Lapua
Bullet : .308, 230, Berger Hybrid G7 #30428
Useable Case Capaci: 112.134 grain H2O = 7.281 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length : 33.0 inch = 838.2 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-50

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 80 89.44 2581 3401 32839 10671 96.1 2.172
-18.0 82 91.68 2649 3583 35322 10946 97.1 2.115
-16.0 84 93.91 2717 3769 37989 11197 98.0 2.051
-14.0 86 96.15 2784 3959 40854 11424 98.7 1.980
-12.0 88 98.38 2852 4153 43933 11623 99.3 1.913
-10.0 90 100.62 2918 4350 47241 11793 99.7 1.848
-08.0 92 102.86 2985 4549 50797 11934 99.9 1.785
-06.0 94 105.09 3050 4751 54622 12043 100.0 1.726 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 96 107.33 3115 4955 58740 12133 100.0 1.669 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 98 109.56 3179 5160 63177 12219 100.0 1.613 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0 100 111.80 3242 5368 67962 12301 100.0 1.561 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 102 114.04 3305 5578 73130 12378 100.0 1.510 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 104 116.27 3367 5790 78717 12451 100.0 1.461 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 106 118.51 3429 6005 84768 12518 100.0 1.414 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 108 120.74 3491 6223 91330 12579 100.0 1.369 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 110 122.98 3552 6444 98467 12635 100.0 1.325 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:

Cartridge : .30-338 Lapua
Bullet : .308, 230, Berger Hybrid G7 #30428
Useable Case Capaci: 112.134 grain H2O = 7.281 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length : 33.0 inch = 838.2 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-33

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 79 89.44 2709 3749 37501 10874 98.3 2.016
-18.0 81 91.68 2777 3938 40352 11102 98.9 1.948
-16.0 83 93.91 2844 4130 43411 11302 99.4 1.883
-14.0 85 96.15 2910 4325 46693 11474 99.8 1.820
-12.0 87 98.38 2976 4522 50213 11615 100.0 1.759
-10.0 89 100.62 3041 4722 53991 11728 100.0 1.702
-08.0 91 102.86 3104 4922 58047 11832 100.0 1.646 ! Near Maximum !
-06.0 93 105.09 3168 5124 62406 11932 100.0 1.593 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 94 107.33 3230 5328 67093 12028 100.0 1.543 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-02.0 96 109.56 3292 5534 72137 12120 100.0 1.494 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0 98 111.80 3353 5742 77573 12207 100.0 1.447 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 100 114.04 3414 5952 83436 12289 100.0 1.402 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 102 116.27 3474 6165 89770 12366 100.0 1.359 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 104 118.51 3535 6381 96624 12438 100.0 1.317 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 106 120.74 3595 6599 104053 12505 100.0 1.277 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 108 122.98 3655 6821 112121 12566 100.0 1.239 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
 
Here's Hodgdon US869, couldn't find 872 or 5010 in Quickload.

Code:
Cartridge          : .30-338 Lapua
Bullet             : .308, 230, Berger Hybrid G7 #30428
Useable Case Capaci: 112.134 grain H2O = 7.281 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length      : 33.0 inch = 838.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon US 869

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   81    89.44   2494    3176   31992   9618     90.4    2.144
-18.0   83    91.68   2559    3344   34321   9923     91.8    2.086
-16.0   85    93.91   2624    3517   36805  10216     93.0    2.031
-14.0   87    96.15   2690    3695   39470  10496     94.2    1.963
-12.0   89    98.38   2755    3877   42332  10761     95.3    1.899
-10.0   91   100.62   2821    4063   45405  11009     96.3    1.837
-08.0   93   102.86   2886    4254   48708  11240     97.1    1.778
-06.0   95   105.09   2952    4449   52258  11451     97.9    1.721
-04.0   97   107.33   3017    4648   56077  11641     98.5    1.666  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   99   109.56   3082    4850   60191  11809     99.1    1.613  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  102   111.80   3146    5056   64626  11954     99.5    1.562  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  104   114.04   3211    5265   69414  12074     99.8    1.513  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  106   116.27   3275    5477   74589  12168     99.9    1.466  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  108   118.51   3339    5693   80193  12236    100.0    1.420  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  110   120.74   3402    5910   86270  12288    100.0    1.376  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  112   122.98   3465    6131   92875  12335    100.0    1.333  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
 
I appreciate it. I'm amazed at how low the velocities are. Guys are getting 3175fps with 230's in a 26" barrel using 110grs of 869. One guy has a Oehler ballistic lab and keeps it to 65kpsi or less.
 
I set the pressure max at 64k
I would imagine you can monkey w those a little. Rifle will probably tell you when you're pushing it.
I used your overflow number though.
 
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