Advice on lighter weight LR rig

[idahohunter8]

Hello,

Looking for some feedback...I am working on the idea of a mid-long range lighter weight long range rifle for deer, antelope, and elk in Idaho. Idea is out to 600-700 yards even though I probably will never legitimately shoot beyond 4-450. The main goal is to have longer range capability but with less weight. Looking at a semi custom package where I buy a factory gun and put a new stock on, trigger job, and bed it. Here are my thoughts...

1. Remington Stainless ADL, B&C mountain rifle stock. 300wsm

2. Tikka T3 Stainless, B&C stock. 300 wsm.

Planning on shooting 190 AccuBond lr ammo and maybe testing the 210 lr AccuBond.

 

[Anonymous]

I very much like the .300WSM and it's well suited for the type of shooting you describe.

As a thought- how about a Nosler Patriot? Likely going to be about the same $$$ as building a Remington out of parts. My M48 Sporter weighs 8lbs ready to hunt and shoots sub-MOA with boring regularity from the bench.

Just some food for thought.

 

[idahohunter8]

Right now here is what I am looking at cost wise...

1. Remington stainless package from sportsmans $499
B&C Stock - $240
Bedding material and trigger job - $75

Total - $825 ish

2. Tikka T3 Stainless - $679
B&C Stock - $249

Total - $930 ish...

 

[wildgene]

...my stock T3 Lite .300 WSM weighs 7 1/4#s w/ a 4.5X14 VX-3, under 8#s, loaded w/ a sling, trigger is very clean & adjusted to 2.5#. It shoots the 180gr. NAB's @3050fps into a MOA @500M, generally 2, 3, or 4 near touching & a 'zinger' I've never been able to figger out, .6-.7 w/ some other loads. The leade/ throats on the 3 Tikkas I've set up have been very long, but it doesn't seem to affect the accuracy. If you're really serious about using the 210gr. ABLRs, you could change out the short bolt stop w/ a standard, add a .300 WM mag & seat them out quite a bit longer than usual (3.000"+ possibly). I like the light weight, I like the accuracy, I like the trigger, I like the 60* bolt throw...

...the new M700's, you throw away the stock, the barrel, the trigger, pay to get the action 'straightened up, a new barrel, stock, & a trigger that works & locks down the bolt, & after a couple three grand, you end up w/ a really nice thousand dollar rifle... :roll: :wink: :mrgreen:

 

[SJB358]

...my stock T3 Lite .300 WSM weighs 7 1/4#s w/ a 4.5X14 VX-3, under 8#s, loaded w/ a sling, trigger is very clean & adjusted to 2.5#. It shoots the 180gr. NAB's @3050fps into a MOA @500M, generally 2, 3, or 4 near touching & a 'zinger' I've never been able to figger out, .6-.7 w/ some other loads. The leade/ throats on the 3 Tikkas I've set up have been very long, but it doesn't seem to affect the accuracy. If you're really serious about using the 210gr. ABLRs, you could change out the short bolt stop w/ a standard, add a .300 WM mag & seat them out quite a bit longer than usual (3.000"+ possibly). I like the light weight, I like the accuracy, I like the trigger, I like the 60* bolt throw...

...the new M700's, you throw away the stock, the barrel, the trigger, pay to get the action 'straightened up, a new barrel, stock, & a trigger that works & locks down the bolt, & after a couple three grand, you end up w/ a really nice thousand dollar rifle... :roll: :wink: :mrgreen:

I'm with Gene on the two rifles. Plus, a 2.8" mag box is really short for the WSM. I know they are meant to work out of them, but it really puts the 180 and above bullets very deep in the case. Rarely do you hear of many folks complaining about the accuracy from Tikkas. Some of their set ups are pretty danged good as is.

 

[BretN]

I have two Tikka T3s. A T3 lite in 308 and a standard T3 hunter in 30-06. I'm no great handloader, but they both easily were able to develop loads that shoot 1/2" or less.

They are great guns, with smooth actions and a fantastic trigger that is easily adjustable. The plastic stock on the lite isn't even that bad. It is pretty stiff and the foreend won't deflect unless you really push on it.

All that being said, I am seriously looking at the relatively new Remington 700 long range. 26" barrel b/c M40 stock, trigger seemed OK, but only limited long action calibers, 300 WM being one. $700 at cabela's, which is a good value I think. No idea how they shoot, but I have a b/c medalist stock ony M70 and love it.

You probably can't go wrong either way. Look for a used Tikka too maybe. They are way under valued here in Mn. I bought one with a scope for $450 and the other last fall for $369. Good luck.

 

[idahohunter8]

Here is what I have decided on....Will be picking up the rifle today and ordering the stock soon.

I have agreed to purchase a Winchester 70 classic stainless in 300 wsm with 24" barrel. I will be replacing the stock with a B&C model 70 classic (1.85 pounds) and replacing the two piece trigger guard with a 1 piece to fit the stock. Hopefully she shoots good, but if not I have a great platform for a new 300 wsm barrel.

The tikka was my second option, but for the $600 I was able to get this Winchester for, I just couldn't say no. I think I am going to limit my self to max weight of 190 lr accubonds...don't need 210 grain bullets for 400 - 500 yard shots.

 

[hunting1]

Love my Winchester Extreme Weather! I thought I wanted a Kimber , but after shooting my .308 don't think that light would be much fun.

 

[sask boy]

I think that you have made the right choice as I am playing with a Model 70 in the 270WSM and all indications are that she is going to be a shooter !
I for many years was a model 700 guy but in the last 8 years or so they really have gone down hill in quality, that is just my opinion. Even my CDL's trigger did not feel just right to me until I changed the trigger to a Timney. I actually had the factory trigger worked before the recall and still did not like it.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[SJB358]

Should be a great platform. Looking forward to seeing how well your rifle shoots as you start getting it set up. I'm a big fan of the older Classics. A little time spent on the trigger pays huge dividends.

 

[taylorce1]

I have agreed to purchase a Winchester 70 classic stainless in 300 wsm with 24" barrel. I will be replacing the stock with a B&C model 70 classic (1.85 pounds) and replacing the two piece trigger guard with a 1 piece to fit the stock. Hopefully she shoots good, but if not I have a great platform for a new 300 wsm barrel.

I wouldn't order the B&C stock for a Winchester without going to a store and handling a brand new Winchester Extreme Weather. The B&C stock on my Extreme Weather was way to thick in the grip and forearm for my tastes. I imagine this is a similar stock with full length bedding block that you'll be ordering for your WSM, and I'm not saying it's a bad stock as it is certainly functional. I'm just saying that unless you have very large hands, it just won't feel right to many.

I'd look for a derlin spacer instead of a floor plate for the stock. CDNN used to sell them I don't know if they still have any. It allowed you to use your two piece bottom metal in a one piece stock. They usually sold for around $10 though they might require some fitting. My thinking on this is you'll spend around $400 to get your barreled action into a B&C stock by the time you spend money on a floor plate as well. That has you within $150 +/- a McMillan stock the same weight as the B&C you're looking at.

I would actually recommend a High Tech/Bansner stock, but since Legendary Arms Works bought him out I think you'll have a hard time getting one. Though it might be worth a call to them to see if they have a NOS on hand. With a little work I think they are as nice as the McMillan, and a lot nicer and more svelte than the B&C stocks.

 

[Oldtrader3]

I had a .300 WSM in a Browning 6.5 lb., A-Bolt. Even with a 15 ounce scope on it, it still beat me up pretty well and this coming from a .340W and 9.3x74R shooter? Just my observation?