Cartridges That Didn't Take

[RememberBaker]

It makes sense that many of these cartridges are appreciated on the Nosler forum. If you have many of these rifles in your safe, you need to be a hand loader to use them. "Obsolete" doesn't phase me in the least if I can figure out how to acquire brass.

 

[Greg Nolan]

With some of the new powders available (Superformance , Leverevolution and CFE 223) some of those obsolete and unpopular cartriges aren't so bad. I'm getting incredible velocities and accuracy out of the 30-06 and 308 based calibers not to mention the WSMs. I still think my 375 Ultramag is popular, just not among the elk.

 

[cloverleaf]

With some of the new powders available (Superformance , Leverevolution and CFE 223) some of those obsolete and unpopular cartriges aren't so bad.

+1 MV of a 100 GR BT out of my obsolete 250-3000 is 3000 FPS. That makes it the equal of a 243 inside 300 yards IMHO. CL

 

[Oldtrader3]

I certainly do not worry about the ability of my .257 Roberts to take a deer as far away as I would care to shoot one. Getting 3140 fps out of the 110 AccuBond.

 

[FOTIS]

I'm more fascinated with the older cartridges these days than the newer. Some of those old German rounds are pretty interesting.

6.5mm x 68mm Schuler!

 

[FOTIS]

With some of the new powders available (Superformance , Leverevolution and CFE 223) some of those obsolete and unpopular cartridges aren't so bad.

That is true! But the new ones also get much better.

Look at the 257 weatherby or the 270 WBY or the 7mm wby......

Super fast cartridges anyway you look at them. For the 257 bee 100 gr bullet at 3500 fps. This was designed back in the 40's. Why? because there were no slower powders. If Roy had modern powders like RL22..... 25.....33 Retumbo etc we would have the 25-300 WBY.

100 grain bullet at 4K and 110 AB at 3800-3900 fps.

See with progress everything gets better so yes the slower/older ones stay that way.

 

[SJB358]

I'm more fascinated with the older cartridges these days than the newer. Some of those old German rounds are pretty interesting.

6.5mm x 68mm Schuler!

Yep, that and the 8x68S.. Both of those are pretty interesting to me.. I have been looking at an 8mm in the future and think that would be a fun one to have.

 

[DrMike]

I'm scratching that itch, Scotty. Won't gain a thing over my 325 WSM. Then, the 325 didn't provide any advantage over the much older 8X68S. :grin:

 

[SJB358]

I'm scratching that itch, Scotty. Won't gain a thing over my 325 WSM. Then, the 325 didn't provide any advantage over the much older 8X68S. :grin:

I know your going to beat me to it, but it is more of a long range plan anyhow. It'll be nice to see how yours turns out.. Might save me a buck or two following your load work too! :lol:

 

[DrMike]

Yeah, that's me--always a point man.

 

[Rem Jim]

I'm scratching that itch, Scotty. Won't gain a thing over my 325 WSM. Then, the 325 didn't provide any advantage over the much older 8X68S. :grin:

The BEST way to improve a 325 WSM is to neck it up to .338 cal ! Now that would improve that metric 8mm ? thing greatly ! :grin: JMO LOL

Cheers RJ

 

[JD338]

What about the 400 H&H and the 505 Gibbs?
They might be popular in Africa but not state side.

JD338

 

[Elkman]

I was thinking that maybe we could start a post titled "How come the 270 is so popular?" I am sure that topic would generate some discussion. Also might get me banned from the forum.?

 

[truck driver]

Hmmmm. What is the oldest still commercially loaded caliber that is still chambered in a rifle today? Maybe the 45-70?

 

[JD338]

I was thinking that maybe we could start a post titled "How come the 270 is so popular?" I am sure that topic would generate some discussion. Also might get me banned from the forum.?

Go for it Bill!
That would make for some good dialog. :mrgreen:

JD338

 

[JD338]

Hmmmm. What is the oldest still commercially loaded caliber that is still chambered in a rifle today? Maybe the 45-70?

TD,

I would agree.
The 30-30 might be in second place.

JD338

 

[DrMike]

Hmmmm. What is the oldest still commercially loaded caliber that is still chambered in a rifle today? Maybe the 45-70?

TD,

I would agree.
The 30-30 might be in second place.

JD338

44-40?

The oldest commercial cartridge being loaded today is likely a .22 Short made in the U.S. in 1857.

 

[JD338]

Good point Doc.

JD338

 

[DrMike]

Consequently, the 44-40, 45-70 and 45 Colt were all developed in 1873. Data taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_pistol_and_rifle_cartridges_by_year.

The .22 long was first produced in 1871 (http://gorole.gunownersresource.com/index.php?title=Table_of_cartridges_by_year).

 

[Rigbymauser]

Hmmmm. What is the oldest still commercially loaded caliber that is still chambered in a rifle today? Maybe the 45-70?

TD,

I would agree.
The 30-30 might be in second place.

JD338

The 8x57 and 7x57 might be sharing the same Second-place-stand as the .30WCF. :grin: