I just can't decide if I really want it...

[Guest]

I need some convincing. I ran across some special package deal Remington 700's today at a local gunshop. They appear to be a cross between 700ADL's and 700SPS's, as they have the blind magazine and plastic triggerguard and stock of the ADL, but have no sights, and have the rough finish of the SPS. They are all new guns, new enough to be without j-locks. Every one is in 7mmRemMag, which is part of the problem. I already own a 270Wby in a nice Mark V action, so there is significant overlap. I really want a 300Wby in a stainless Mark V, but that's a lot of coin ($450-650, best case, plus optics). Now, to be fair, these guns are wearing an el cheapo Simmons or Tasco scope (but with the Remington "R" on the turret caps), so optics are not premium here, and would get replaced soon enough. But the guns look decent (other than that awful SPS finish) and they have the old style trigger, which is so easy to adjust. Now for the hard part - they are on sale for $333 (which is $366 out the door with 10% sales tax). I just don't know if letting one of these by (since I have the cash onhand) is wise, as a 700 long action is worth way more than just $333 if I ever wanted to build something. Oh, and these guns have 26" barrels, too, so velocity should be excellent.

Alright, there's the particulars. Y'all convince me one way or the other...

 

[Powerstroke]

dubyam,

I've attempted to look back at the older remington models. The only one's I was aware of like / somewhat like you are describing is the 710 model or the newer 770 series ??? They are a different action and I don't believe they can be rebarreled?? I'd like a little more info on that myself.

 

[Guest]

Nope, this is a 700. It's really an ADL, but with that awful rough finish from the SPS, and no sights on the barrel. Other than that, and it having a 26" tube, there's nothing remarkable about it, save the price.

 

[Powerstroke]

Wow......I have a 7mag and might have a hard time passing it up just for the action.
I'm with you though... not a fan of those stocks.

 

[Bruce Mc]

Remington makes a lot of rifles for special orders from varying distributors. Its probably one of the those. For 333, I couldn't pass it up. And like you said, a long action Remington 700 with a magnum bolt face has many uses. It could easily become a 300 Wby.

 

[old #7]

You sound like you are already unhappy with the thought of buying one.
I agree the

awful rough finish from the SPS

Buy something you want and won't regret later.
Just my $.02

 

[JD338]

dubyam

That is a good price just for the action. Unless you are interested in a M700 project gun, save your money and get the 300 Wby. You will end up with buyers remorse since you have indicated you really want a SS Wby.
I agree that there really isn't that much difference between the 270 Wby and the 7mm RM until you get to the heavier bullet weights and then the 7mm RM has the advantage.
Buy what you really want and be happy.

JD338

 

[HunterJim]

For a new .300 Weatherby take a look at the Weatherby Vanguard Stainless.

If you want to go the project rifle route, you could buy this Remington 7 mm Mag, sell the barrel and buy a new one. Then make sure it feeds.

I expect the buy decision here will cost less than the build alternative.

jim

 

[Guest]

I really wouldn't build a 300Wby out of this, as I just sort of like my Mark V in 270Wby, and would like one in 300Wby.

As for the build option, I am wondering what I could make it into at a later date, and if it's worth investing in that now. Another option is to get it, shoot it, and if it shoots good, then have the whole thing camo dipped and make a really cool hunting rig out of it. So many rifles, so little time and money...

 

[ram161]

have you considered rechambering the 7 mag to 7stw this would only take a rechamering do to the 26 inch tube.

 

[Guest]

How does the STW function as far as fit (length-wise) into the 700 action? I know it's longer than the 7mmRemMag. I'd considered perhaps a 7mmDakota, until I saw what brass costs...I like different, so if there's anything off the beaten path that I could do with this to make it into something I want (for not too much $$$) I'm all ears. They still have five of these left on the rack, as of yesterday.

 

[Powerstroke]

dubyam,

The new Nosler #6 Book shows the STW COL to be the same as the 7RUM.

I'm with you, I always like something just a little different, not so main-stream.
Remington did chamber the 7STW a few years back so my amateur experience I don't see why it wouldn't be a smooth transition.

Let us know what you decide...

 

[FOTIS]

Remington makes a lot of rifles for special orders from varying distributors. Its probably one of the those. For 333, I couldn't pass it up. And like you said, a long action Remington 700 with a magnum bolt face has many uses. It could easily become a 300 Wby.

yup!

 

[JD338]

dubyam

The 7mm Rem Mag is a long/mag action and will take the 7mm STW.
A simple rechambering should do it for you.
The 7mm STW gives up very little to the 7mm RUM so you will have one long range rig capable of taking ellk and moose. The 160 gr AB would be just about perfect. :wink:

JD338

 

[Guest]

Any idea what the cost of re-chambering is? And as far as getting it done, what's involved? If they have to remove the barrel (and I assume they do) then I ought to get it trued while they're in there, so what's the cost on all that work? Isn't it just about as cheap to add a new barrel (of significantly better quality than factory) at the same time?

 

[JD338]

Blue print the actiion will cost about $180
Set back the barrel and Rechamber $100
Custom barrel $300-400, plus chambering $100
Custom stock $300-400

Having a custom rifle made exactly the way you want it $Priceless. :wink:

JD338

 

[Guest]

You're in rare form this afternoon, JD. I might be inclined to try to have someone rechamber this thing to 7mmSTW if it only cost me about $100. I could just get it reamed, and shoot it like it was factory, and I'd still have less than a grand in the whole thing with a really good scope...there's a store here locally that has a mess of brand new 7mmSTW brass on the shelf, on sale right now...it might be a perfect compliment to my 270Wby, and to a future 300Wby - kind of right in the middle...hmmmmmm.....

 

[ram161]

You can shoot the 7 mm remington and if it shoots good then it should shoot the same as a 7 STW. I don't believe the barrel needs to be set back because the stw is longer . The stw is based on the 8mm remington magnum case and the shoulder is further ahead then the 7mm remington.