And what action would you use? Not some exotic action but like a CRF M-70, CZ550, Montana, etc. With Cape Buff on the menu would you do .375, 416, 458, 477? I've been thinking more about building up a really nice wood stocked blued rifle to take back to Africa some day. I might be a pipe dream for awhile as I have tons of other projects but I can't decide between a .416 Rem./Ruger, a 458 Lott, or a .470 Capstick (or something else I'm overlooking). I'm doing a 375 Ruger on a SS M-70 Classic in a McMillan stock so I'd probably do something bigger. I have both a 416 Rem. and 458 Lott on Remington actions and have hunted with them both. I've killed 5 elk, a couple deer, and my cow moose with the .416 and I've shot a few bears with my 458 Lott. I have basic Hornady long magnum brass and can have it engraved for 470 Capstick so it matches the rifle if that is the route I decide to go. I do have a 416 Rem Ultra Mag reamer as well but the Ultra Mags, Rigby's, and 378/416/460 Weatherby's seem like too much of a good thing. The recoil starts to get pretty steep with heavy bullets. I do actually have a 460 Weatherby barrel and a 500 A-Square barrel that we used to shoot bears with but they are full 1.25" straight barrels to keep the weight up and recoil down. I also have 1300 423 Dakota cases which are Lapua/Rigby/Weatherby type bolt face but only 2.5" long. I use the brass in my 30-338 Norma Imp rifle. They would be really easy to neck up or down but they would require a big CZ550 or Montana PH action. The case capacity on the 423 Dakota is about half way between the long 2.80 to 2.85" belted magnums (like a 416 Rem and 458 Lott) and the Ultra Mags.