Ladder test 6 creed/108 eldms/h4350

[remingtonman_25_06]

Did a quick ladder test with the freshly built 6 creed last week at 300 yards. Just wanted to share the results. Anyone care to take a guess where I loaded the rest of the batch up?

 

[JD338]

Very nice build Jorey. Looks like a shooter and it didn't take long to get it humming.

JD338

 

[gerry]

Did you do 40.2 gr or maybe 39.3 gr?

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

Did you do 40.2 gr or maybe 39.3 gr?

I went with 40.2 It was a .8" group at 300 yards for a .6g charge spread with an ES of 20. I'll take that anyday. Reason being I didn't go with 39.3 is because I want a little more velocity, plus those 3 weren't quite a good of group, especially with the vertical and the ES was 50.

Haven't done a whole lot of LR shooting with it yet, but it did print a 2.5" group at 500 and wacked its first dog at 225 this morning. And on the way out of the farm this morning, I stopped and shot once at the 1K gong and was rewarded with a resounding whop.

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

Very nice build Jorey. Looks like a shooter and it didn't take long to get it humming.

JD338

Thanks Jim. I'm pretty happy with it so far. Only have 80 rounds through it so it should get a little better and faster. Only thing I'm going to do is swap out those crappy WLRs for some CCI 200s. I might tinker with seating depth after these 100 cases of Peterson brass are fireformed. Didn't want to get to serious with load development as its still new, but it looks promising. I'll take a little over 1/4 MOA anyday at 300 yards with a .6g spread in charge and an ES of 20.

It also shoots the factory Hornady match 108s under 1/2 at 100, with velocity of 2982fps and ES of 13.

 

[gerry]

I went with 40.2 It was a .8" group at 300 yards for a .6g charge spread with an ES of 20. I'll take that anyday. Reason being I didn't go with 39.3 is because I want a little more velocity, plus those 3 weren't quite a good of group, especially with the vertical and the ES was 50.

Haven't done a whole lot of LR shooting with it yet, but it did print a 2.5" group at 500 and wacked its first dog at 225 this morning. And on the way out of the farm this morning, I stopped and shot once at the 1K gong and was rewarded with a resounding whop.

Makes a lot of sense, I would have done the 40.2 for the reasons you stated. That's an excellent group at 300 yards especially with the different powder charges.

 

[TackDriver284]

Those are good groups @ 300 with virgin brass, just load those up till all are fireformed and see how it prints after. Does not seem much tweaking is needed with .8 @300.

 

[hunter24605]

Dang! that's pretty impressive. Looks like you're capable of wringing out the performance in that rifle. Nice work!

 

[JD338]

Jorey,
With the weight of the rifle and the brake, can you see impacts through the scope? Just curious.

JD338

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

Jorey,
With the weight of the rifle and the brake, can you see impacts through the scope? Just curious.

JD338

Yes I can. That was the goal as it's primarily a coyote/steel and will see a few local PRS/MOA challenge matches. It's pretty cool. I watched that dog fold like a sack of potatoes yesterday and was also able to see the vapor trail and hits on the 500 yard gong.

 

[JD338]

That's awesome. A well thought out build buddy.

JD338

 

[xphunter]

I went with 40.2 It was a .8" group at 300 yards for a .6g charge spread with an ES of 20. I'll take that anyday. Reason being I didn't go with 39.3 is because I want a little more velocity, plus those 3 weren't quite a good of group, especially with the vertical and the ES was 50.

Haven't done a whole lot of LR shooting with it yet, but it did print a 2.5" group at 500 and wacked its first dog at 225 this morning. And on the way out of the farm this morning, I stopped and shot once at the 1K gong and was rewarded with a resounding whop.

I would have guessed 40.1

 

[RL338]

Very impressive start already
You’re going to really enjoy that set-up.
I built my 6mm Creed off of a short action Howa.

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

I would have guessed 40.1

That's actually a really good idea.

I am going to do some more load development after these 100 cases are fireformed. My plan is to load 5 each at 40/40.1/40.2/40.3/40.4 and shoot groups at 300 and record velocities. Try to get it narrowed down just a bit more.

 

[xphunter]

I would typically try to get in the middle of that node...I like fudge room.
Looking forward to your results.
Great Rifle!
Great Shooting!

 

[frankm]

I d try getting 160 or so rounds it getting brass fireformed and then group/chrono again.

Brand new barrels usually get an additional 50-75 fps after totally broke in. Sometimes bites guys on the hiney ….. if they pick a load before barrel totally broke in. Ask me how I know And I ve seen a number of good riflemen fall into same issue.

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

That's the plan. I bought a box of factory Hornady match 108s and will shoot four 5 shot groups to check velocity over the first 200 rounds. Shots 1-5 on new barrel did 2982. Will do another 5 at 100, 150, and 200. I'm at 80 rounds down the BRUX as of now.

 

[gerry]

I d try getting 160 or so rounds it getting brass fireformed and then group/chrono again.

Brand new barrels usually get an additional 50-75 fps after totally broke in. Sometimes bites guys on the hiney ….. if they pick a load before barrel totally broke in. Ask me how I know And I ve seen a number of good riflemen fall into same issue.

I've heard this before, what's the reasoning for the increased speed after the break in period?

 

[JD338]

The final lapping with bullets and cleaning gets rid of the minor imperfections allowing the bullet to slide out the barrel with less friction.

JD338

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

The final lapping with bullets and cleaning gets rid of the minor imperfections allowing the bullet to slide out the barrel with less friction.

JD338

That's what they say, although I've never really noticed a huge gain, if any. Premium barrels come lapped from the manufacturer. I haven't noticed any speed increase in my Bartlein on the 7-300. Still shoots the same 3000fps with 450 rounds down it now. But then again, I never had a controlled lot of ammo to test either. Which is kind of why I'm doing it on the 6 Creed, bought the factory box, and keeping a close eye on it the first 200 rounds. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't noticed it anyway. I've kept a log book on every round fired from the 7-300 and doing the same on the 6 Creed. Time will tell!