Need data for 338 Lapua and the 200gr Accubond

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Charlie-NY

Handloader
Mar 11, 2005
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Reloading for a friend who wants to use the 200 AccuBond in his 338 Lapua. Started with H1000 but was looking for alternatives. He wanted me to try RE26 but I suspect that the burn rate is too slow.

Anyone have any data for the 200 AccuBond that you'd like to share?
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .338 Lapua Mag.
Bullet             : .338, 200, Nosler Accubond 56382
Useable Case Capaci: 99.651 grain H2O = 6.470 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.681 inch = 93.50 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   89    87.84   2840    3582   41458  12550     98.9    1.354
-09.0   90    88.82   2874    3669   43002  12656     99.2    1.331
-08.0   91    89.79   2909    3757   44610  12753     99.4    1.308
-07.0   92    90.77   2943    3846   46285  12842     99.6    1.286
-06.0   93    91.74   2977    3935   48029  12921     99.8    1.264
-05.0   94    92.72   3011    4026   49849  12991     99.9    1.242
-04.0   95    93.70   3045    4116   51745  13050    100.0    1.222
-03.0   96    94.67   3078    4208   53724  13101    100.0    1.201  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   97    95.65   3112    4300   55786  13146    100.0    1.181  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   98    96.62   3145    4392   57940  13191    100.0    1.161  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   99    97.60   3178    4484   60172  13234    100.0    1.142  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  100    98.58   3211    4578   62488  13276    100.0    1.123  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  101    99.55   3243    4671   64895  13317    100.0    1.104  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  102   100.53   3276    4765   67400  13357    100.0    1.086  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  103   101.50   3308    4860   70006  13395    100.0    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  104   102.48   3340    4955   72719  13432    100.0    1.050  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     99    97.60   3321    4897   75647  12681    100.0    1.042  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     99    97.60   2957    3884   46336  13567     97.6    1.275

Code: 
Cartridge          : .338 Lapua Mag.
Bullet             : .338, 200, Nosler Accubond 56382
Useable Case Capaci: 99.651 grain H2O = 6.470 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.681 inch = 93.50 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60100 psi, or 414 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

18 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                  98.8     97.6     6.32    3177   100.0    60100   13233   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0    106.5     6.90    3168    94.1    58354   14757   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 107.6     98.3     6.37    3157   100.0    60100   12873   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        110.0    101.0     6.55    3154    98.6    60100   13693   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           99.7     95.5     6.19    3153    99.7    60100   13366   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    101.4     95.2     6.17    3146    97.7    60100   13635   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           105.9     94.5     6.13    3137    98.1    60100   13236   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       100.2     94.5     6.13    3137    98.1    60100   13236   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    101.7     99.3     6.43    3133    96.4    60100   13676   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 101.7     94.4     6.12    3123    99.1    60100   13144   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     104.4     94.8     6.15    3122    99.0    60100   13154   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     101.6    101.6     6.59    3105    99.5    60100   12589   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0    100.0     6.48    3096    98.2    59213   12859   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 104.1     93.6     6.06    3094   100.0    60100   11910   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      102.9     93.8     6.08    3090    97.6    60100   12805   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0    109.6     7.10    3085    93.4    54747   14303   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  98.5     90.4     5.86    3081    98.9    60100   12527   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                  95.6     85.5     5.54    3079   100.0    60100   11703   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      94.1     89.2     5.78    3076    99.9    60100   12154   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           93.5     88.7     5.74    3059    98.7    60100   12220   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           93.6     85.1     5.51    3057   100.0    60100   11657   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     90.9     85.4     5.53    3056   100.0    60100   11784   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      103.8     92.6     6.00    3056    97.3    60100   12335   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    99.7     92.6     6.00    3056    97.3    60100   12335   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       92.8     85.3     5.53    3052   100.0    60100   11639   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            98.2     86.4     5.60    3038   100.0    60100   11408   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0    101.6     6.58    3037    99.4    51660   13349   1.205
Winchester Supreme 780              97.2     94.2     6.10    3033    98.8    60100   11905   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      101.8     93.5     6.06    3030    99.9    60100   11673   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    103.9     94.4     6.12    3028    99.3    60100   11712   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   100.9     90.1     5.84    3021    97.5    60100   11943   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 96.1     85.4     5.53    3015   100.0    60100   10769   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    103.9     91.5     5.93    3012    97.9    60100   11694   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0    107.6     6.97    2969    86.0    55101   12702   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron                   105.3     95.7     6.20    2951    90.4    60100   11416   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          110.0     99.5     6.45    2936    97.6    45554   13411   1.291
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0    100.0     6.48    2924    91.0    53805   12158   1.214  ! Near Maximum !
 
FWIW, RL 22 with the 200 GR BT and 210 GR PT in the 338 RUM gets 3200 fps and sub .5 MOA.

JD338
 
Thanks for the quick replys. The info is very helpful.

Dr. Mike - is there any chance you can run some Quickload info for me on the 22-243 with a Hornady 80gr A-Max bullet? I have a very large selection of powder on hand but would prefer to use some of the newer de-coppering powders, if data is available.

Thanks,

Charlie
 
Code: 
Cartridge          : .22-243 Win
Bullet             : .224, 80, Hornady A-MAX 22832
Useable Case Capaci: 45.089 grain H2O = 2.928 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.650 inch = 67.31 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    40.41   2906    1500   43553  12971     98.7    1.270
-09.0   91    40.86   2942    1538   45242  13078     99.1    1.248
-08.0   92    41.31   2978    1575   47003  13176     99.4    1.226
-07.0   93    41.76   3014    1613   48841  13263     99.6    1.205
-06.0   94    42.21   3049    1652   50761  13339     99.8    1.183
-05.0   95    42.66   3085    1690   52766  13405     99.9    1.163
-04.0   96    43.10   3120    1729   54860  13459    100.0    1.143
-03.0   97    43.55   3155    1768   57049  13503    100.0    1.123  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    44.00   3189    1807   59328  13541    100.0    1.103  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    44.45   3224    1846   61692  13578    100.0    1.085  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    44.90   3258    1886   64151  13613    100.0    1.066  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  101    45.35   3292    1925   66711  13648    100.0    1.047  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  102    45.80   3326    1965   69378  13681    100.0    1.030  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  103    46.25   3360    2005   72158  13713    100.0    1.012  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    46.70   3393    2045   75055  13743    100.0    0.995  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  105    47.15   3427    2086   78076  13772    100.0    0.978  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    44.90   3405    2060   80511  13056    100.0    0.973  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    44.90   3031    1632   49280  13951     97.6    1.191

Code: 
Cartridge          : .22-243 Win
Bullet             : .224, 80, Hornady A-MAX 22832
Useable Case Capaci: 45.089 grain H2O = 2.928 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.650 inch = 67.31 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64250 psi, or 442 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

11 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 100.5     44.9     2.91    3259   100.0    64250   13615   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 109.6     45.3     2.94    3241   100.0    64250   13240   1.051  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          101.6     44.0     2.85    3239    99.8    64250   13781   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    103.4     43.9     2.84    3234    97.8    64250   14079   1.054  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           107.9     43.6     2.82    3227    98.2    64250   13671   1.043  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       102.1     43.6     2.82    3227    98.2    64250   13671   1.043  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    103.5     45.7     2.96    3217    96.6    64250   14078   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 103.7     43.6     2.82    3212    99.1    64250   13575   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     106.5     43.8     2.84    3210    99.0    64250   13581   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  91.4     39.8     2.58    3195   100.0    64250   12313   1.055  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     103.2     46.7     3.03    3185    99.6    64250   12909   1.055  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0     48.2     3.12    3184    93.3    58664   14869   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 106.2     43.2     2.80    3181   100.0    64250   12303   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                  97.9     39.6     2.57    3176   100.0    64250   12188   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 100.6     41.8     2.71    3175    99.0    64250   12990   1.053  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     45.7     2.96    3174    98.1    60262   13905   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      91.0     40.0     2.59    3173    99.7    64250   12715   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        91.0     40.0     2.59    3173    99.7    64250   12715   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      96.2     41.3     2.68    3170   100.0    64250   12612   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           95.9     39.4     2.55    3154   100.0    64250   12141   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           95.5     41.0     2.66    3154    98.8    64250   12687   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     93.2     39.6     2.56    3153   100.0    64250   12270   1.066  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       95.0     39.5     2.56    3148   100.0    64250   12116   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   101.8     42.8     2.77    3146    97.5    64250   12764   1.051  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      105.9     42.8     2.77    3146    97.5    64250   12764   1.051  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           100.5     40.0     2.59    3133   100.0    64250   11870   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              99.1     43.4     2.81    3121    98.9    64250   12291   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     45.2     2.93    3117    97.6    59274   13059   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      103.7     43.1     2.79    3117   100.0    64250   12056   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    106.0     43.6     2.82    3116    99.3    64250   12100   1.064  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   103.1     41.7     2.70    3115    97.6    64250   12393   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 98.4     39.5     2.56    3111   100.0    64250   11218   1.063  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        90.7     38.3     2.48    3105    99.5    64250   11933   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    106.1     42.3     2.74    3104    98.0    64250   12121   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     49.6     3.21    3099    92.6    55146   14376   1.133
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     46.0     2.98    3053    99.0    51764   13558   1.158
IMR 7977 Enduron                   107.3     44.1     2.86    3038    90.7    64250   11801   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     48.7     3.16    2985    85.1    55384   12750   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
 
Suggest RL 22 with the 200 to 225gr in the 338 RUM

My rifle likes the 225gr Swift A Frame with 91.0 of RL 22.
 
If you don't mind, may I ask for what purpose this load is for? I'm always curious when I see a very light bullet weight (for caliber) on top of a huge column of powder as to what the rational and purpose is for.


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shoots_5":ztppwbki said:
If you don't mind, may I ask for what purpose this load is for? I'm always curious when I see a very light bullet weight (for caliber) on top of a huge column of powder as to what the rational and purpose is for.
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The load is for by hunting partner who is a bit recoil sensitive. We have already put a good brake on the rifle but he wanted to see how a lighter bullet would affect/reduce recoil.
Ultimately, he will be hunting moose with the rifle and load. Since most moose are killed with a 30-06 class cartridge and bullets ranging from 180gr-200gr; I can't see that there will be any problem with a 200gr AccuBond launched from the 338 Lapua. Muzzle velocity should easily exceed 3,100 ft/sec from his 26" bbl.

I shoot a 338 RUM myself. I took a 15 point bull with a 250 AccuBond and literally flipped him over backwards. He never even quivered after hitting the ground. The bullet traveled through both shoulder but was captured in the off side. IIRC the bullet lost 60% of its weight but did an amazing job along the way. I decided to use the 250 AB because it shot noticeably tighter groups at 300yds than the 300gr AB did.

So far, we have the 200 AB shooting inside of 4" at 400 yds. My guess is that with a little more range time I can get that down even though it isn't necessary. The 250 ABs shoot below 2" @ 400yds in my semi-custom rifle.
 
Charlie, if you don't mind what is your load for 250 AccuBond in the 338 Lapua Magnum? I am looking to develop one for me and I like that bullet a lot

Thanks
ASD
 
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