Need Quikload for new 338-06 please

preacher

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Aug 19, 2012
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I have a Wby Ultra Lightweight 338/06 A-Square heading my way/ Sold a bunch of stuff to get it, but I won the Bid. ha! The Model 700 SS 338 WM only shot well with lighter bullets going very, very flat primer fast! Still a might heavy so took advantage of Elk Season Opener next weekend and sold it to a younger guy, ha. Anyhow, I plan on necking up new Lapua 30-06 brass and need 63K Quikload suggestions.
I'm starting with Speer 200 HC and 200 NBT. I will then try the 200 NAB and the 210 Partition. Im starting with R17, R16, Varget, IMR 4064 ( just for the Speers 200)
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All that to say I just need data for the Speer 200/IMR4064 and the 200 NBT with the other powder. I also need data for Big Game/200, 210 and 6,5 Staball with 180-185 anything.
Rifle has a 24" barrel. Any help is appreciated and ask Dr Mike, I " will sing at your funeral" if you want?? ( Spoiler Alert, sometimes I call up bullfrogs in heat when I sing????) LOL
 
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Congrats on the Weatherby 338-06. Should make for an awesome elk hammer.

JD338
 
Very nice!
I sure like my 338-06! (Custom LH Rem 700w/ nutmeg laminated Wenig stocks and 22" King barrel with NECG open sights)

I was lucky enough to round up as much Wby factory 210gr Partition ammo while waiting for the rifle to be built, along with a good supply of the Wby brass. I actually get the 2750 fps as advertised with the factory ammo out of my rifle. Produces 1/2" groups at 100 yards.
I have also rounded up some of the Nosler factory ammo with the 225 gr AccuBond bullet, but haven't shot or chronied it in my rifle as yet.

The handloads I have worked up to date include:
- 215 gr SGK w/ 62.0 gr of H-414 using WLR primers for 2751 fps producing 1/2" groups at 100 yards (worked just fine on a decent sized black bear); and
- 200 gr Ballistic Tips w/ 50.0 gr of IMR4320 using WLR primers for 2590 fps producing .787" groups at 100 yards (not a fast stepping load but would be suitable for medium big game such as deer, black bear and caribou).

A load I haven't tried as yet:
-210 gr Partition w/ 56.5 gr of BL-C(2) using WLR primers should produce approx. 2749 fps.

NOTE - the higher BC of the 215 gr SGK will actually retain more velocity and energy at 300 yards out of the 338-06 and beyond than the 210 gr Partition fired from a 338 Win Mag! With less powder burnt and recoil experienced! And give you 5 in the magazine compared to 3 in a magnum rifle. Gotta like that kind of performance and capacity! :cool:
 
Thanks guys! I am going to pick a load around 2700 with the Speer/4064 and do my own break in as I doubt its ever been shot much. It does have an after market muzzle break, so "maybe" someone has either tweaked it to perfection or it drove them nuts...we shall see! :)
 
Preacher, Sorry I posted QL for 338-08, damn my aging eyes. lol

Code:
Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 200, Speer SP 2405
Useable Case Capaci: 62.781 grain H2O = 4.076 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : IMR 4064

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   94    51.30   2545    2877   45236   7429     97.1    1.269
-09.0   95    51.87   2571    2936   46664   7502     97.5    1.251
-08.0   96    52.44   2597    2995   48136   7573     97.8    1.234
-07.0   97    53.01   2623    3055   49655   7641     98.0    1.217
-06.0   98    53.58   2649    3115   51222   7708     98.3    1.200
-05.0   99    54.15   2674    3176   52839   7771     98.5    1.183
-04.0  100    54.72   2700    3237   54507   7832     98.8    1.167  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  101    55.29   2726    3299   56229   7891     99.0    1.151  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  102    55.86   2751    3361   58006   7946     99.2    1.136  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  103    56.43   2776    3423   59842   7999     99.3    1.120  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  104    57.00   2802    3486   61737   8049     99.5    1.105  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  105    57.57   2827    3550   63695   8096     99.6    1.091  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  106    58.14   2852    3613   65717   8141     99.7    1.076  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  107    58.71   2878    3677   67808   8182     99.8    1.062  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  108    59.28   2903    3741   69968   8220     99.9    1.048  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  109    59.85   2928    3806   72202   8255     99.9    1.034  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    104    57.00   2903    3742   72541   7757    100.0    1.036  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    104    57.00   2658    3137   51161   8015     95.4    1.197


Code:
Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 200, Nosler BalTip 33200
Useable Case Capaci: 58.570 grain H2O = 3.803 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : IMR 4064

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   95    48.60   2492    2758   44147   6935     96.3    1.289
-09.0   96    49.14   2518    2815   45557   7007     96.6    1.271
-08.0   97    49.68   2544    2873   47012   7077     97.0    1.253
-07.0   98    50.22   2569    2931   48514   7144     97.3    1.236
-06.0  100    50.76   2595    2990   50065   7209     97.6    1.219
-05.0  101    51.30   2621    3050   51667   7272     97.9    1.202
-04.0  102    51.84   2646    3110   53322   7333     98.2    1.185
-03.0  103    52.38   2672    3170   55031   7391     98.4    1.169  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  104    52.92   2697    3231   56798   7447     98.6    1.153  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  105    53.46   2723    3292   58623   7500     98.9    1.137  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  106    54.00   2748    3353   60511   7551     99.1    1.122  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  107    54.54   2773    3415   62462   7599     99.2    1.107  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  108    55.08   2798    3478   64481   7645     99.4    1.092  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  109    55.62   2824    3541   66569   7687     99.5    1.077  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  110    56.16   2849    3604   68730   7727     99.7    1.063  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  111    56.70   2874    3668   70967   7764     99.8    1.049  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    106    54.00   2853    3615   71342   7302    100.0    1.050  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    106    54.00   2601    3005   49978   7464     94.4    1.216


Code:
Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 200, Nosler BalTip 33200
Useable Case Capaci: 58.570 grain H2O = 3.803 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0  101    53.10   2528    2839   41123   7741     94.2    1.299
-09.0  102    53.69   2558    2906   42521   7834     94.7    1.279
-08.0  103    54.28   2587    2973   43973   7924     95.2    1.260
-07.0  104    54.87   2617    3041   45479   8011     95.7    1.240
-06.0  105    55.46   2647    3110   47041   8095     96.2    1.222
-05.0  107    56.05   2676    3180   48662   8175     96.6    1.203
-04.0  108    56.64   2706    3251   50344   8251     97.0    1.185
-03.0  109    57.23   2735    3322   52095   8324     97.4    1.167
-02.0  110    57.82   2765    3395   53913   8393     97.7    1.149  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  111    58.41   2794    3467   55802   8457     98.1    1.132  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  112    59.00   2824    3541   57768   8518     98.4    1.115  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  113    59.59   2853    3616   59809   8575     98.7    1.098  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  114    60.18   2883    3691   61939   8627     98.9    1.081  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0  116    60.77   2912    3766   64156   8675     99.2    1.065  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  117    61.36   2942    3843   66464   8719     99.4    1.049  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  118    61.95   2971    3920   68871   8757     99.5    1.033  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    112    59.00   2963    3900   69300   8223    100.0    1.033  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    112    59.00   2631    3074   47464   8253     91.6    1.221

Code:
Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 200, Nosler BalTip 33200
Useable Case Capaci: 58.570 grain H2O = 3.803 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   99    55.80   2608    3021   43342   8154     97.0    1.265
-09.0  100    56.42   2639    3093   44915   8236     97.4    1.244
-08.0  101    57.04   2670    3167   46564   8313     97.8    1.224
-07.0  102    57.66   2701    3241   48276   8386     98.2    1.204
-06.0  103    58.28   2733    3316   50062   8455     98.5    1.184
-05.0  104    58.90   2764    3392   51920   8518     98.8    1.165
-04.0  105    59.52   2795    3469   53861   8576     99.1    1.146  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  106    60.14   2826    3546   55885   8630     99.3    1.128  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  107    60.76   2857    3624   58000   8678     99.5    1.110  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  108    61.38   2888    3703   60209   8720     99.7    1.092  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  109    62.00   2919    3783   62517   8757     99.8    1.074  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0  111    62.62   2949    3863   64932   8789     99.9    1.057  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  112    63.24   2980    3944   67459   8814    100.0    1.040  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  113    63.86   3011    4026   70105   8834    100.0    1.023  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  114    64.48   3041    4108   72877   8849    100.0    1.007  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  115    65.10   3072    4190   75784   8862    100.0    0.991  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    109    62.00   3049    4129   76132   8313    100.0    0.994  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    109    62.00   2724    3294   50693   8753     95.0    1.180
 
Code:
Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 200, Nosler Accubond 56382
Useable Case Capaci: 58.132 grain H2O = 3.774 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Ramshot Big Game

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   91    52.20   2507    2790   41407   7321     95.7    1.308
-09.0   92    52.78   2534    2852   42804   7400     96.1    1.288
-08.0   93    53.36   2562    2915   44251   7477     96.6    1.269
-07.0   95    53.94   2589    2978   45751   7550     96.9    1.250
-06.0   96    54.52   2617    3041   47305   7621     97.3    1.232
-05.0   97    55.10   2645    3106   48917   7689     97.6    1.213
-04.0   98    55.68   2672    3171   50591   7753     97.9    1.196
-03.0   99    56.26   2700    3236   52325   7815     98.2    1.178
-02.0  100    56.84   2727    3302   54125   7874     98.5    1.161  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  101    57.42   2754    3369   55993   7929     98.8    1.144  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  102    58.00   2782    3436   57937   7981     99.0    1.127  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  103    58.58   2809    3504   59954   8030     99.2    1.111  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  104    59.16   2836    3572   62049   8075     99.4    1.095  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0  105    59.74   2863    3641   64231   8116     99.5    1.079  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  106    60.32   2891    3710   66498   8154     99.7    1.064  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  107    60.90   2918    3780   68857   8188     99.8    1.049  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    102    58.00   2903    3741   70214   7683    100.0    1.048  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    102    58.00   2612    3029   47062   7855     93.6    1.232


Code:
Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 210, Nosler PART SP 16337
Useable Case Capaci: 60.958 grain H2O = 3.958 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Ramshot Big Game

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   87    52.20   2435    2764   39538   7490     96.3    1.363
-09.0   88    52.78   2461    2823   40816   7570     96.7    1.343
-08.0   89    53.36   2487    2884   42139   7647     97.0    1.323
-07.0   90    53.94   2513    2945   43506   7722     97.4    1.304
-06.0   91    54.52   2539    3006   44920   7794     97.7    1.286
-05.0   92    55.10   2565    3068   46382   7864     98.0    1.267
-04.0   93    55.68   2591    3130   47894   7930     98.3    1.249
-03.0   94    56.26   2617    3193   49460   7994     98.6    1.232
-02.0   95    56.84   2643    3256   51079   8054     98.8    1.214
-01.0   96    57.42   2668    3320   52757   8112     99.0    1.197
+00.0   97    58.00   2694    3385   54494   8166     99.2    1.181  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   98    58.58   2720    3449   56270   8217     99.4    1.164  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   99    59.16   2745    3514   58157   8265     99.5    1.148  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0  100    59.74   2771    3580   60089   8309     99.7    1.132  ! Near Maximum !
+04.0  101    60.32   2796    3646   62092   8350     99.8    1.116  ! Near Maximum !
+05.0  102    60.90   2822    3713   64169   8387     99.9    1.101  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     97    58.00   2808    3677   65798   7857    100.0    1.097  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     97    58.00   2533    2991   44277   8059     94.1    1.289
 
My 338-06 was a Remington 700 Long Range 30-06 rebored by JES.It is one of the best shooting rifles I own.I really like the 200gr bullets,both the Silver Ballistic Tips and AccuBond.My rifle shoots them both same POI.It's accurate with several loads.I have found it shoots well with so many powders,but I keep going back to Big Game because it always groups so well with it.I use the WLRM Primer and resized Winchester 30-06 once fired cases necked up on all of them.Here is my load data.
180gr AccuBond 58.0grs Varget 3010fps
180gr AccuBond 60.0grs Big Game 2940fps
200gr AccuBond 60.0grs 760 This load grouped good just never got a velocity on it
200gr AccuBond 62.0grs H4350 2740fps
200gr AccuBond 63.0grs Hunter 2730fps
200gr AccuBond 59.5grs BLC-2 2830fps
200gr AccuBond 56.0grs Varget 2849fps
210gr Partition 54.0grs Varget 2721fps
200gr AccuBond 59.0grs CFE223 2807fps
200gr AccuBond 59.0grs Big Game 2812fps
200gr AccuBond 61.0grs Accurate 4350 2661fps
210gr Partition 59.0grs Accurate 4350 2777fps


200gr AccuBond 59.0grs Big Game
 
My 338-06 was a Remington 700 Long Range 30-06 rebored by JES.It is one of the best shooting rifles I own.I really like the 200gr bullets,both the Silver Ballistic Tips and AccuBond.My rifle shoots them both same POI.It's accurate with several loads.I have found it shoots well with so many powders,but I keep going back to Big Game because it always groups so well with it.I use the WLRM Primer and resized Winchester 30-06 once fired cases necked up on all of them.Here is my load data.
The 700 LR has a 26-inch barrel, correct? Do find it unwieldy?

Those sure are some impressive groups.
 
My 338-06 was a Remington 700 Long Range 30-06 rebored by JES.It is one of the best shooting rifles I own.I really like the 200gr bullets,both the Silver Ballistic Tips and AccuBond.My rifle shoots them both same POI.It's accurate with several loads.I have found it shoots well with so many powders,but I keep going back to Big Game because it always groups so well with it.I use the WLRM Primer and resized Winchester 30-06 once fired cases necked up on all of them.Here is my load data.
180gr AccuBond 58.0grs Varget 3010fps
180gr AccuBond 60.0grs Big Game 2940fps
200gr AccuBond 60.0grs 760 This load grouped good just never got a velocity on it
200gr AccuBond 62.0grs H4350 2740fps
200gr AccuBond 63.0grs Hunter 2730fps
200gr AccuBond 59.5grs BLC-2 2830fps
200gr AccuBond 56.0grs Varget 2849fps
210gr Partition 54.0grs Varget 2721fps
200gr AccuBond 59.0grs CFE223 2807fps
200gr AccuBond 59.0grs Big Game 2812fps
200gr AccuBond 61.0grs Accurate 4350 2661fps
210gr Partition 59.0grs Accurate 4350 2777fps


200gr AccuBond 59.0grs Big Game
Those are some very impressive results from a rebore👍
 
The 700 LR has a 26-inch barrel, correct? Do find it unwieldy?

Those sure are some impressive groups.
I been using rifles with a 26" barrel for 30yrs.At first my thoughts were that is soooo long.Now it's not a problem.I have a 30-06 with a 28" barrel.Now that is kinda long,but boy does it shoot with impressive results too.If your walking up and down hills or mountains it might not be a good choice,but it's flat land where I hunt so that is not a factor.
 
I been using rifles with a 26" barrel for 30yrs.At first my thoughts were that is soooo long.Now it's not a problem.I have a 30-06 with a 28" barrel.Now that is kinda long,but boy does it shoot with impressive results too.If your walking up and down hills or mountains it might not be a good choice,but it's flat land where I hunt so that is not a factor.
Thank you. Don't think I've ever used anything with longer than a 24-inch. It didn't feel too long, but it seemed - I don't know, unusual? Guess I'm just more used to a 22-inch. I'd try a longer one again.
 
Thank you. Don't think I've ever used anything with longer than a 24-inch. It didn't feel too long,can but it seemed - I don't know, unusual? Guess I'm just more used to a 22-inch. I'd try a longer one again.
Another thing I do like about longer barrels is,you don't have as much muzzle jump like you do with a 22" barrel.It also helps with recoil too,especially if it's a heavier contour.I see more and more people say they don't like a long barrel,then they screw a 6"-8" can on the end of a 22" barrel.Do the math.............
 
Another thing I do like about longer barrels is,you don't have as much muzzle jump like you do with a 22" barrel.It also helps with recoil too,especially if it's a heavier contour.I see more and more people say they don't like a long barrel,then they screw a 6"-8" can on the end of a 22" barrel.Do the math.............
Well, I try to be open to learning, and trying new things. Yeah, some people have odd ideas about things.

Again, thank you.
 
I got very good results with my trial loads 200gr NAB today at the range. I used CCI 250. I always start out with a Mag Primer with any Ball Powder. In this case, Lapua pockets were too tight for Federal or WLRM. Rifle has a long throat but will only reliably work at 3.33" through magazine. Even then, groups are very promising with 200 NAB/Big Game. I feel the Mag primers are too violent, going to try trial again but with CCI BR2.
Rifle is a sweetheart! Someone had bedded the recoil lug, skim bedded the aluminum bedding block, free floated the barrel. Trigger was worked down to a crisp 2 1/4 #, Decelerator pad added. Brake made recoil feel like a 7x57/7mm08. Best part, it was easy to shoot well, not too light, but came out to 6 3/4 # scoped with a Leupold 2.5x8! I'm jazzed deluxe! About time I got a break, Praise the Lord! ha.
 
Congrats, sounds like a great rifle. Hopefully you can hunt it this fall.

JD338
 
Very nice, good work! I have always had an interest in a 338-06. I'm thinking of sending a Savage 30-06 to Jess and have it bored/chambered.
 
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