Need suggestions!

taylorce1

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Jun 3, 2007
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I have this HVA small ring 98 pictured above, and I don't know what to do with it. I have no real holes in my safe I need to fill, so I'm kind of at a loss for what I want to build. Here is my only criteria.

1. Must work with current .473 bolt face.
2. No 7mm or 8mm calibers.
3. No smaller than 6.5 and no larger than 9.3mm.
4. No varmint or heavy barrels.
5. Wildcats are okay, I've played with a few in the past.

So far my top contenders are 6.5X55, 6.5X57, .256 Newton, 9X57 (.358X57), or 9.3X57. This action was originally a 6.5-06 that I took apart because it had a 19" barrel on it and the magazine didn't fit the newer 140+ grain bullets very well.
 
256 Newton! As I recall you already have a 250AI so you've got a sexy .25. Now you need a 6.5 :grin: Another cartridge ahead of its time. On the other hand a 6.5x55, how do you go wrong with that? CL
 
cloverleaf":3vkttzuf said:
256 Newton! As I recall you already have a 250AI so you've got a sexy .25. Now you need a 6.5 :grin: Another cartridge ahead of its time. On the other hand a 6.5x55, how do you go wrong with that? CL

I have a .250 Savage not an AI, and I have a .25-06. However, the .256 Newton is a 6.5 caliber it's just a shortened down 06 case. Kind of a tweener round in the middle of a 6.5X57 and 6.5-06.
 
taylorce1":3h0tw632 said:
cloverleaf":3h0tw632 said:
256 Newton! As I recall you already have a 250AI so you've got a sexy .25. Now you need a 6.5 :grin: Another cartridge ahead of its time. On the other hand a 6.5x55, how do you go wrong with that? CL

I have a .250 Savage not an AI, and I have a .25-06. However, the .256 Newton is a 6.5 caliber it's just a shortened down 06 case. Kind of a tweener round in the middle of a 6.5X57 and 6.5-06.

I stand corrected. Good luck w/ whatever you decide to do. CL
 
cloverleaf":2atb9tf3 said:
taylorce1":2atb9tf3 said:
cloverleaf":2atb9tf3 said:
256 Newton! As I recall you already have a 250AI so you've got a sexy .25. Now you need a 6.5 :grin: Another cartridge ahead of its time. On the other hand a 6.5x55, how do you go wrong with that? CL

I have a .250 Savage not an AI, and I have a .25-06. However, the .256 Newton is a 6.5 caliber it's just a shortened down 06 case. Kind of a tweener round in the middle of a 6.5X57 and 6.5-06.

I stand corrected. Good luck w/ whatever you decide to do. CL


Wasn't trying to correct you CL, just trying to inform. Besides the .250 Savage was developed by Charles Newton, why not use his 6.5 creation?
 
Well, you could do a .358 Win AI and be a pioneer! Always wondered what that would be like. The 9.3 x 62 (if it fits) is gaining popularity on the big side. If you have no 6.5 x 55, that needs corrected :grin:
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It's off your want list but a 6MM rem AI with a fast twist to take advantage of some of the new high BC heavy for cal bullets out there. 107 gr MK leaving the muzzle at over 3000 would put a smile on a lot of faces.


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How about a .275 Rigby? Barring that, my vote would go to the Swede.
 
taylorce1":3jsarylz said:
cloverleaf":3jsarylz said:
taylorce1":3jsarylz said:
cloverleaf":3jsarylz said:
256 Newton! As I recall you already have a 250AI so you've got a sexy .25. Now you need a 6.5 :grin: Another cartridge ahead of its time. On the other hand a 6.5x55, how do you go wrong with that? CL

I have a .250 Savage not an AI, and I have a .25-06. However, the .256 Newton is a 6.5 caliber it's just a shortened down 06 case. Kind of a tweener round in the middle of a 6.5X57 and 6.5-06.

I stand corrected. Good luck w/ whatever you decide to do. CL


Wasn't trying to correct you CL, just trying to inform. Besides the .250 Savage was developed by Charles Newton, why not use his 6.5 creation?
Maybe a 260 Rem will work or 260/AI.
 
super-7":11ab5usr said:
It's off your want list but a 6MM rem AI with a fast twist to take advantage of some of the new high BC heavy for cal bullets out there. 107 gr MK leaving the muzzle at over 3000 would put a smile on a lot of faces.


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Did that already with a .243 Win and they're doing it with the 6mm Creedmoor. I actually got 3100+ with 105 grain VLD and A-Max bullets, but it doesn't fit the style of rifle I'm imagining. 6mm Rem AI would still be a little faster but I might as well do a 6-284 if I want to maximize the case capacity in the action without going to a magnum bolt face.

hodgeman":11ab5usr said:
How about a .275 Rigby? Barring that, my vote would go to the Swede.
That would go against my no 7mm cartridge quest.

truck driver":11ab5usr said:
Maybe a 260 Rem will work or 260/AI.

6.5-284 would be the better choice for this action over the .260 Rem/AI. Though I'm trying not to create any feeding issues that'll need to be addressed. With a .308 based cartridge or a fat case like the 284 Win based cartridge, there might be magazine and feed rail issues that would need to be addressed.
 
The 9.3x57 would be very cool as would the x62 version. Both of those have a bunch of cool bullets and loaded correctly aren't exactly slouches.

Been working with the x57 a little And it's a ton of fun.
 
I'm thinking a .338 something. You have the magazine length to play around a little. Maybe something like a 338X57 Improved, or a 338/284.

Should be able to launch a 160gr Barnes at 3000fps+ without a gliche, or a 225gr well over 2500fps.
 
I'd have to say 6.5x55 also. In an M98, you can soup it up just a touch, equaling the 6.5x284 if you felt like it.

You'd have the advantage of match grade Lapua brass already available in the caliber, and many, many fine 6.5 pills to sling through it.

Nothing odd or sexy about it, but a .308 in an M98 long action can be pretty interesting too. Depends on how you throat and twist it. Some big long BTHPs seated long and chugging along at a sedate velocity would be awfully fun for dinging steel at the range and relatively inexpensive to shoot. Even just a plain-Jane .308 in a plinking gun is a good thing to have in regards to inexpensive components and long barrel life.
 
I would do a 6.5x55 AI, a 30-06 AI or 30-284 in .30 caliber, or a 9.3x62. Lapua makes brass for them all.
 
taylorce1[quote="hodgeman":pjewuds3 said:
How about a .275 Rigby? Barring that, my vote would go to the Swede.
That would go against my no 7mm cartridge quest. [/quote]

I know, but the Brits refused to acknowledge it was a 7x57 for two generations...thought I'd give you the leeway! :lol:
 
Polaris said:
I'd have to say 6.5x55 also. In an M98, you can soup it up just a touch, equaling the 6.5x284 if you felt like it.

Nothing sexy about it,

I beg to differ sir.

If you dont have the Swede in your arsenal, you are depriving yourself of one of the all time greats. This is a classic and versatile caliber. My mum says the Swede is like having an 18 year old Bridgette Bardot, and she stays 18 ---forever. ( of course when I first heard her say that I had no idea who she was talking about, but when I saw a picture of her at 18, I understood her point )

I am sure you reload but you dont need to as Norma supplies excellent loaded ammo for the Swede in FMJ, for bird hunting, Vulcan for small--big game, and the Oryx and Alaska for large--big game.

I can not imagine you not liking the Swede,

Best Regards

Jamila
 
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