QL help 6.5 SAUM a few powders?

elmer deer

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Hi looking for some on a few powders I would like to try in my 6.5 SAUM.
24" barrlel
COL:2910"
140 berger hybryd
I would like to see the results of Vihtavouri N165, Imr7977, RL26, H1000

Thank you to anyone that can post some info on this caliber.

Elmerdeer
 
Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 mm RSAUM
Bullet             : .264, 140, Berger Hybr #26414
Useable Case Capaci: 65.048 grain H2O = 4.223 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.910 inch = 73.91 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N165

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    47.60   2406    1799   33338  10027     94.9    1.624
-18.0   82    48.79   2464    1888   35587  10303     95.9    1.581
-16.0   84    49.98   2522    1978   37980  10564     96.7    1.536
-14.0   86    51.17   2580    2069   40529  10811     97.5    1.488
-12.0   88    52.36   2638    2163   43242  11041     98.2    1.443
-10.0   90    53.55   2695    2258   46132  11252     98.8    1.400
-08.0   92    54.74   2752    2355   49210  11445     99.2    1.357
-06.0   94    55.93   2809    2453   52490  11618     99.6    1.317
-04.0   96    57.12   2866    2553   55988  11770     99.8    1.278  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    58.31   2922    2653   59719  11900    100.0    1.241  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    59.50   2977    2755   63703  12008    100.0    1.205  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    60.69   3032    2858   67960  12106    100.0    1.170  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    61.88   3087    2962   72513  12201    100.0    1.136  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106    63.07   3141    3066   77387  12291    100.0    1.104  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108    64.26   3194    3172   82613  12377    100.0    1.073  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110    65.45   3248    3280   88221  12459    100.0    1.043  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    59.50   3082    2952   75439  11574    100.0    1.121  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    59.50   2821    2474   52055  12198     97.6    1.316

Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 mm RSAUM
Bullet             : .264, 140, Berger Hybr #26414
Useable Case Capaci: 65.048 grain H2O = 4.223 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.910 inch = 73.91 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   86    50.72   2417    1817   31421  10804     91.1    1.627
-18.0   88    51.99   2483    1917   33682  11167     92.6    1.581
-16.0   90    53.26   2549    2020   36117  11513     94.0    1.536
-14.0   92    54.52   2616    2127   38742  11838     95.2    1.488
-12.0   94    55.79   2683    2237   41573  12142     96.3    1.438
-10.0   96    57.06   2750    2351   44629  12421     97.3    1.390
-08.0   98    58.33   2817    2467   47934  12674     98.1    1.343
-06.0  100    59.60   2884    2585   51511  12897     98.8    1.299
-04.0  103    60.86   2951    2706   55390  13090     99.3    1.256  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  105    62.13   3017    2830   59600  13250     99.7    1.214  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  107    63.40   3084    2956   64177  13376     99.9    1.173  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  109    64.67   3150    3084   69166  13465    100.0    1.135  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  111    65.94   3215    3214   74612  13532    100.0    1.097  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  113    67.20   3280    3345   80571  13594    100.0    1.061  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  115    68.47   3345    3479   87106  13648    100.0    1.026  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  118    69.74   3410    3615   94292  13696    100.0    0.992  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    107    63.40   3219    3222   78665  12799    100.0    1.082  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    107    63.40   2882    2583   51676  13364     95.7    1.293

Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 mm RSAUM
Bullet             : .264, 140, Berger Hybr #26414
Useable Case Capaci: 65.048 grain H2O = 4.223 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.910 inch = 73.91 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   76    48.80   2489    1926   31686  11661     97.8    1.651
-18.0   78    50.02   2553    2026   34007  11942     98.6    1.607
-16.0   79    51.24   2617    2128   36510  12194     99.2    1.565
-14.0   81    52.46   2680    2232   39209  12414     99.7    1.515
-12.0   83    53.68   2742    2338   42116  12600     99.9    1.465
-10.0   85    54.90   2804    2444   45207  12752    100.0    1.418
-08.0   87    56.12   2865    2552   48501  12888    100.0    1.372
-06.0   89    57.34   2926    2661   52025  13019    100.0    1.328
-04.0   91    58.56   2985    2771   55796  13147    100.0    1.286  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   93    59.78   3044    2881   59833  13270    100.0    1.246  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   95    61.00   3103    2993   64159  13390    100.0    1.207  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   97    62.22   3161    3106   68796  13505    100.0    1.170  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   98    63.44   3219    3221   73773  13615    100.0    1.134  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  100    64.66   3276    3337   79120  13721    100.0    1.099  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  102    65.88   3333    3454   84870  13822    100.0    1.066  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  104    67.10   3390    3573   91063  13917    100.0    1.034  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     95    61.00   3217    3218   79099  12916    100.0    1.109  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     95    61.00   2926    2662   49524  14030     99.7    1.342
 
jmad_81":3sgw28r6 said:
I have had great luck with RL-26 and the 140 VLD in both of my 6.5 SAUMs.
What loads are you using and what speeds are you getting with the vlds and RL-26?

Thank you
Elmer
 
DrMike":33pp4pbc said:
Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 mm RSAUM
Bullet             : .264, 140, Berger Hybr #26414
Useable Case Capaci: 65.048 grain H2O = 4.223 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.910 inch = 73.91 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N165

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    47.60   2406    1799   33338  10027     94.9    1.624
-18.0   82    48.79   2464    1888   35587  10303     95.9    1.581
-16.0   84    49.98   2522    1978   37980  10564     96.7    1.536
-14.0   86    51.17   2580    2069   40529  10811     97.5    1.488
-12.0   88    52.36   2638    2163   43242  11041     98.2    1.443
-10.0   90    53.55   2695    2258   46132  11252     98.8    1.400
-08.0   92    54.74   2752    2355   49210  11445     99.2    1.357
-06.0   94    55.93   2809    2453   52490  11618     99.6    1.317
-04.0   96    57.12   2866    2553   55988  11770     99.8    1.278  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    58.31   2922    2653   59719  11900    100.0    1.241  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    59.50   2977    2755   63703  12008    100.0    1.205  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    60.69   3032    2858   67960  12106    100.0    1.170  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    61.88   3087    2962   72513  12201    100.0    1.136  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106    63.07   3141    3066   77387  12291    100.0    1.104  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108    64.26   3194    3172   82613  12377    100.0    1.073  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110    65.45   3248    3280   88221  12459    100.0    1.043  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    59.50   3082    2952   75439  11574    100.0    1.121  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    59.50   2821    2474   52055  12198     97.6    1.316

Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 mm RSAUM
Bullet             : .264, 140, Berger Hybr #26414
Useable Case Capaci: 65.048 grain H2O = 4.223 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.910 inch = 73.91 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   86    50.72   2417    1817   31421  10804     91.1    1.627
-18.0   88    51.99   2483    1917   33682  11167     92.6    1.581
-16.0   90    53.26   2549    2020   36117  11513     94.0    1.536
-14.0   92    54.52   2616    2127   38742  11838     95.2    1.488
-12.0   94    55.79   2683    2237   41573  12142     96.3    1.438
-10.0   96    57.06   2750    2351   44629  12421     97.3    1.390
-08.0   98    58.33   2817    2467   47934  12674     98.1    1.343
-06.0  100    59.60   2884    2585   51511  12897     98.8    1.299
-04.0  103    60.86   2951    2706   55390  13090     99.3    1.256  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  105    62.13   3017    2830   59600  13250     99.7    1.214  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  107    63.40   3084    2956   64177  13376     99.9    1.173  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  109    64.67   3150    3084   69166  13465    100.0    1.135  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  111    65.94   3215    3214   74612  13532    100.0    1.097  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  113    67.20   3280    3345   80571  13594    100.0    1.061  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  115    68.47   3345    3479   87106  13648    100.0    1.026  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  118    69.74   3410    3615   94292  13696    100.0    0.992  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    107    63.40   3219    3222   78665  12799    100.0    1.082  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    107    63.40   2882    2583   51676  13364     95.7    1.293

Code:
Cartridge          : 6.5 mm RSAUM
Bullet             : .264, 140, Berger Hybr #26414
Useable Case Capaci: 65.048 grain H2O = 4.223 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.910 inch = 73.91 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   76    48.80   2489    1926   31686  11661     97.8    1.651
-18.0   78    50.02   2553    2026   34007  11942     98.6    1.607
-16.0   79    51.24   2617    2128   36510  12194     99.2    1.565
-14.0   81    52.46   2680    2232   39209  12414     99.7    1.515
-12.0   83    53.68   2742    2338   42116  12600     99.9    1.465
-10.0   85    54.90   2804    2444   45207  12752    100.0    1.418
-08.0   87    56.12   2865    2552   48501  12888    100.0    1.372
-06.0   89    57.34   2926    2661   52025  13019    100.0    1.328
-04.0   91    58.56   2985    2771   55796  13147    100.0    1.286  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   93    59.78   3044    2881   59833  13270    100.0    1.246  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   95    61.00   3103    2993   64159  13390    100.0    1.207  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   97    62.22   3161    3106   68796  13505    100.0    1.170  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   98    63.44   3219    3221   73773  13615    100.0    1.134  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  100    64.66   3276    3337   79120  13721    100.0    1.099  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  102    65.88   3333    3454   84870  13822    100.0    1.066  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  104    67.10   3390    3573   91063  13917    100.0    1.034  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     95    61.00   3217    3218   79099  12916    100.0    1.109  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     95    61.00   2926    2662   49524  14030     99.7    1.342


Thank you Dr Mike!
Elmer
 
elmer deer":39dwp56q said:
jmad_81":39dwp56q said:
I have had great luck with RL-26 and the 140 VLD in both of my 6.5 SAUMs.
What loads are you using and what speeds are you getting with the vlds and RL-26?

Thank you
Elmer

The 24" gun is running 57 gr with a 210 doing 3040 and .5 MOA.
The 26" gun is running 58 gr with a WLRM doing 3070 and .3 MOA. This gun will run clear up to 3200, but it shoots so good where it is at that I don't want to mess with it.
 
jmad_81":2llasraw said:
elmer deer":2llasraw said:
jmad_81":2llasraw said:
I have had great luck with RL-26 and the 140 VLD in both of my 6.5 SAUMs.
What loads are you using and what speeds are you getting with the vlds and RL-26?

Thank you
Elmer

The 24" gun is running 57 gr with a 210 doing 3040 and .5 MOA.
The 26" gun is running 58 gr with a WLRM doing 3070 and .3 MOA. This gun will run clear up to 3200, but it shoots so good where it is at that I don't want to mess with it.

Thank you, I should have mine ready next week cant wait to try it out.

Elmer
 
H1000 is what the GAP guys use. If you can't find that, try IMR7977. 58-61 grains with the 140, depending on your brass.


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