Quick Load for .25-06
- Thread starter Bruce Mc
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Hey Bruce,
The 115 gr PT is an awesome bullet but you might also want to work up for the 115 gr BT.
Fingers crossed, you might have both shoot to the same POI. Save the PT's for hunting and target shoot, coyotes etc with the 115 gr BT.
Just saying......
JD338
The 115 gr PT is an awesome bullet but you might also want to work up for the 115 gr BT.
Fingers crossed, you might have both shoot to the same POI. Save the PT's for hunting and target shoot, coyotes etc with the 115 gr BT.
Just saying......
JD338
Guy Miner
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Bruce - I use two different charges of Retumbo for my .25-06 & the two different 115 gr Nosler Bullets.
The 115 Nosler Partition responds very well to Hodgdon's max recommended load for 117's - at 60.0 grains for 3190 fps.
The 115 Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet at that same powder charge produced pressure signs on my cases (and over the chronograph) - so I backed that down to Nosler's recommended max of 57.5 grains, for 3120 fps.
Mostly I'm using Nosler cases and Federal large rifle match primers. Neck sizing only on Wilson dies. Getting very good accuracy from my Remington's 24" factory barrel.
Not quick load - but hopefully useful.
Oh - I've only used the 115 Ballistic Tip on mule deer & antelope so far. It's working so well, I'll probably never use up all those 115 Partitions I bought!
Both are accurate & fast. Oh, and though I'm sighted in at 300 yards with the Ballistic Tip, the Partition shoots right there to the same point of aim! Just like JD338 mentioned it might! :grin:
Guy
The 115 Nosler Partition responds very well to Hodgdon's max recommended load for 117's - at 60.0 grains for 3190 fps.
The 115 Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet at that same powder charge produced pressure signs on my cases (and over the chronograph) - so I backed that down to Nosler's recommended max of 57.5 grains, for 3120 fps.
Mostly I'm using Nosler cases and Federal large rifle match primers. Neck sizing only on Wilson dies. Getting very good accuracy from my Remington's 24" factory barrel.
Not quick load - but hopefully useful.
Oh - I've only used the 115 Ballistic Tip on mule deer & antelope so far. It's working so well, I'll probably never use up all those 115 Partitions I bought!
Both are accurate & fast. Oh, and though I'm sighted in at 300 yards with the Ballistic Tip, the Partition shoots right there to the same point of aim! Just like JD338 mentioned it might! :grin:
Guy
RiverRider
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Cartridge : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet : .257, 115, Nosler PART SP 16318
Useable Case Capaci: 60.764 grain H2O = 3.945 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.250 inch = 82.55 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62366 psi, or 430 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 116 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
100 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Vihtavuori N570 110.1 65.0 4.21 3279 95.6 62366 15302 1.119
Alliant Reloder-33 111.7 67.9 4.40 3261 96.0 62366 15072 1.120
Hodgdon Retumbo 113.8 64.1 4.15 3258 100.0 62366 13780 1.113
Alliant Reloder-26 98.1 59.1 3.83 3242 100.0 62366 13440 1.135
Norma 217 116.0 64.0 4.15 3236 99.9 60038 14199 1.148
Hodgdon H870 116.0 67.1 4.35 3235 97.1 60992 14760 1.133
Alliant Reloder-25 107.0 59.6 3.86 3227 100.0 62366 13085 1.119
Norma MRP 2 109.2 61.2 3.96 3225 99.1 62366 13994 1.132
Norma MRP 99.1 57.9 3.75 3225 99.9 62366 13620 1.128
Alliant Reloder-50 116.0 70.3 4.55 3224 95.0 60222 15241 1.158
Vihtavuori N560 100.9 57.8 3.74 3222 98.4 62366 13989 1.122
IMR 7828 105.4 57.4 3.72 3215 98.8 62366 13575 1.111
IMR 7828 SSC 99.7 57.4 3.72 3215 98.8 62366 13575 1.111
Accurate MAGPRO 101.1 60.2 3.90 3210 97.3 62366 14050 1.130
Alliant Reloder-22 101.2 57.3 3.71 3197 99.5 62366 13446 1.127
Winchester WXR 103.9 57.6 3.73 3196 99.4 62366 13460 1.128
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 60.9 3.95 3190 99.0 62366 13217 1.108
Ramshot Magnum 101.0 61.6 3.99 3176 99.8 62366 12833 1.123
Alliant Reloder-23 103.5 56.7 3.68 3159 100.0 62366 12124 1.136
Alliant Reloder-19 98.2 55.0 3.56 3157 99.4 62366 12843 1.122
Ramshot Hunter 93.8 54.2 3.51 3148 100.0 62366 12399 1.129
Vihtavuori 24N41 111.9 66.7 4.32 3142 89.3 62366 13577 1.116
Norma 204 93.2 53.9 3.49 3136 99.2 62366 12541 1.121
Hodgdon H4831 103.4 56.3 3.65 3133 98.1 62366 12687 1.119
Hodgdon H4831 SC 99.4 56.3 3.65 3133 98.1 62366 12687 1.119
Norma URP 93.4 51.7 3.35 3128 100.0 62366 11896 1.134
Vihtavuori N550 90.7 51.9 3.36 3128 100.0 62366 12029 1.137
Accurate 4350 92.5 51.8 3.36 3122 100.0 62366 11866 1.152
Vihtavuori N170 112.8 62.5 4.05 3108 94.0 62366 12987 1.142
IMR 4831 97.9 52.5 3.40 3108 100.0 62366 11638 1.143
Winchester Supreme 780 96.9 57.2 3.71 3107 99.3 62366 12198 1.128
Vihtavuori N165 103.5 57.3 3.72 3101 99.6 62366 11982 1.133
Accurate 3100 101.3 56.7 3.68 3100 100.0 62366 11885 1.158
Hodgdon H4350 95.9 52.5 3.41 3098 99.7 62366 11871 1.124
IMR 4350 94.1 52.4 3.40 3097 99.8 62366 11847 1.124
Vihtavuori N160 103.7 55.7 3.61 3089 98.6 62366 12024 1.125
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 95.8 51.9 3.36 3083 100.0 62366 10994 1.135
Hodgdon US 869 116.0 69.2 4.49 3079 88.4 58765 13392 1.157
Hodgdon 50BMG 116.0 66.0 4.27 3071 84.0 58271 13449 1.158
Vihtavuori N150 93.8 49.5 3.21 3020 100.0 62366 10391 1.142
Accurate 8700 116.0 67.8 4.39 3000 91.9 52880 13099 1.206
Vihtavuori 20N29 116.0 69.9 4.53 2983 89.0 51773 13260 1.228- Thread starter
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Bruce Mc
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Thanks for the input. I was thinking Retumbo but from the quick load it looks like Re-33 might be a real buster. Thanks for the quick load River. I'd of never thought of using H870 but I've got five pounds of the old stuff.
Guy Miner
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5 pounds? Dang where were you when I was shooting a 7mm mag & 175's and so doggone happy with H870... Then the supply dried up years ago...
Yeah, the 115 - 120 gr bullets really seem to do well with slower burning powders, from the .25-06 cartridge... I stumbled on that Retumbo choice years ago, when I had some left after selling my .300 Rem Ultra Mag. It worked GREAT in the .25-06, so I've stuck with it for quite a while now. Started using it for the 2008 season.
Guy
Yeah, the 115 - 120 gr bullets really seem to do well with slower burning powders, from the .25-06 cartridge... I stumbled on that Retumbo choice years ago, when I had some left after selling my .300 Rem Ultra Mag. It worked GREAT in the .25-06, so I've stuck with it for quite a while now. Started using it for the 2008 season.
Guy
RiverRider
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I was always attracted to the highest velocity numbers, but I think two things that should be heavily considered are whether or not you can get that charge into the case and under the bullet, and whether or not you're going to get a good complete burn. Retumbo looks like a potential winner to me, but getting that much powder in the case could require a drop tube and some encantations.
boomer68
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- Oct 23, 2006
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Yes, Retumbo is my go to powder for the 25-06. Fantastic accuracy in my Vanguard S2.
joelkdouglas
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My rifle likes 54 grains H4831 with 115s. Doesn't sound like the powder you have available, but just in case you need it in the future...
joelkdouglas
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SJB358":12d69hdi said:
Scotty!
The 115 Berger got about 3050. I haven't tried a 115 BT or PT yet. The 110 AB with the same 54 grains H4831 got about 3100. Well above the powder charge max Nosler recommends, but I just loaded to near the same speed that Nosler said was max, and that should mean I'm seeing about the same pressures. I'm confident I could push both more, but accuracy is good and I thought speed was good enough.
I am using 52.5 grains H4350 with the 100s. I don't think I've chrono'd the TTSXs yet, but with the 100 PT I was getting 3250 or a bit better. I got some more speed out of 53 grains but accuracy looked worse. It's hard to tell with the 25-06 because it just shoots everything well.
I donno though. I may pull all the TTSXs and put them back in the box. If that 165 AB performance from this fall is similar to the 110 AB performance, I may dedicate the 110 AB to the 25-06. I really need to blood that rifle!
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Bruce Mc
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Bob, I've found that Reloder 17 is a real killer in the .220 swift. Unfortunately it doesn't have any prospect of being a real burner in the .25-06. I'm really looking for 3200 fps or as close as I can.
I have Retumbo, Reloder 33, MRP, Reloder 22, and 7828ssc. One them will do what I want. The cheapo Remington 700 ADL shoots pretty darn good with the 110 AccuBond but I want to try the 115 Partition. (I'm saving the accubonds for my "Bob").
River, I agree about the loading density of the real slow powders. They may be tedious to load. I'm more realistic in counting on the MRP, Reloder 22, or 7828 to do the trick.
I have Retumbo, Reloder 33, MRP, Reloder 22, and 7828ssc. One them will do what I want. The cheapo Remington 700 ADL shoots pretty darn good with the 110 AccuBond but I want to try the 115 Partition. (I'm saving the accubonds for my "Bob").
River, I agree about the loading density of the real slow powders. They may be tedious to load. I'm more realistic in counting on the MRP, Reloder 22, or 7828 to do the trick.
Bruce Mc":3pimvvpo said:
Bruce, don't sell 17 short in the 25-06, even with the heavier bullets. It'll do great things with the 115's speed wise. While it might not "beat" 7828 or maybe 22, but I'd bet you'd be surprised how close it'll come.
I tried to run it through QL for you, but I have just put W10 on this laptop, and it needs to be reinstalled.
Joel, thanks for that info buddy. Got some stuff I am working. My cousin asked if I would work up some good hunting loads for his rifle, so I am still in the research phase.
