Varget Heaven!!!!

wisconsinteacher · Feb 23, 2013

I walked in to the Scheel's in Eau Claire last night as a guy was unpacking some reloading supplies. He had a case of 1lb cans of Varget. I grabbed one as he was unpacking, so there were 19 cans left. I am guessing they will be gone by the end of the weekend. I would have grabbed more but I have never used it so I just grabbed it to try it. I should have bought the entire case and sold it to you guys really needing it. (I would have sold it without trying to make money) I hope it works out in my .223 and 22-250. I might try it sometime with the 25-06 and 30-06. They had a pile of LR primers but no small rifle primers or .22 ammo. There was no handgun ammo in the store.

Guy Miner · Feb 23, 2013

I've shot my way through several 8# jugs of it, mostly in .308's. Good stuff.

russ808 · Feb 23, 2013

Yep. I use it in my 223's and 308's, 7mm08's also.
Russ

CatskillCrawler · Feb 23, 2013

It is the schnizzle in my 22-250, and 308W and load it for family 223 and 7mm-08 rifles. Very useful in so many cartridges. Should have bought the case!! :grin:

russ808 · Feb 23, 2013

Yep. That stuff is hard to get also. I was very lucky to get a 8lb. jug from Powder Valley.
Russ

DrMike · Feb 23, 2013

I use a fair amount of Varget in .308 size cases and those built from the .308.

C.Smith · Feb 23, 2013

I have a pound but like you have never used it, yet... will have to try it in my son's .243.

Corey

DrMike · Feb 23, 2013

C.Smith":qo01aj8m said:
I have a pound but like you have never used it, yet... will have to try it in my son's .243.

Corey

It will work very well in that cartridge, Corey.

SJB358 · Feb 23, 2013

CatskillCrawler":1c3551nh said:
It is the schnizzle in my 22-250, and 308W and load it for family 223 and 7mm-08 rifles. Very useful in so many cartridges. Should have bought the case!! :grin:

CC nailed it. Varget has been just as good over the years as RL15. Almost identical in burn rates and an excellent all around powder..

22-250

Cartridge : .22-250 Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .224, 55, Nosler BalTip 39526
Useable Case Capaci: 39.834 grain H2O = 2.586 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.350 inch = 59.69 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 90 31.97 3273 1308 42226 8936 93.8 1.107
-09.0 91 32.32 3308 1336 43557 9041 94.3 1.091
-08.0 92 32.68 3342 1364 44929 9144 94.7 1.075
-07.0 93 33.03 3377 1392 46344 9244 95.2 1.060
-06.0 94 33.39 3411 1421 47803 9342 95.6 1.046
-05.0 95 33.74 3445 1450 49308 9436 96.0 1.031
-04.0 96 34.10 3479 1479 50860 9528 96.4 1.017
-03.0 97 34.45 3514 1508 52461 9617 96.8 1.003
-02.0 98 34.81 3548 1537 54113 9703 97.1 0.989
-01.0 99 35.16 3582 1567 55817 9786 97.5 0.975 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 100 35.52 3616 1597 57576 9865 97.8 0.962 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 101 35.88 3650 1627 59390 9942 98.1 0.949 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 102 36.23 3684 1657 61264 10015 98.4 0.936 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 103 36.59 3717 1688 63198 10084 98.6 0.923 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 104 36.94 3751 1718 65195 10150 98.9 0.911 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 105 37.30 3785 1749 67257 10212 99.1 0.899 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 35.52 3773 1739 67359 9784 100.0 0.898 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 35.52 3409 1419 47980 9515 92.0 1.045

223

Cartridge : .223 Rem.
Bullet : .224, 55, Nosler BalTip 39526
Useable Case Capaci: 25.774 grain H2O = 1.673 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 22.75 2824 974 36383 5929 85.5 1.178
-09.0 100 23.00 2856 996 37604 6014 86.2 1.161
-08.0 101 23.26 2888 1019 38870 6097 86.8 1.144
-07.0 102 23.51 2920 1042 40178 6180 87.5 1.128
-06.0 103 23.76 2953 1065 41542 6261 88.1 1.111
-05.0 105 24.02 2985 1088 42953 6341 88.7 1.095
-04.0 106 24.27 3018 1112 44417 6419 89.3 1.079
-03.0 107 24.52 3050 1136 45936 6496 89.9 1.063
-02.0 108 24.77 3083 1161 47509 6571 90.4 1.048
-01.0 109 25.03 3116 1186 49151 6645 91.0 1.033
+00.0 110 25.28 3148 1211 50835 6717 91.5 1.018
+01.0 111 25.53 3181 1236 52621 6788 92.1 1.003
+02.0 112 25.79 3214 1262 54462 6856 92.6 0.989 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 113 26.04 3247 1288 56373 6923 93.1 0.974 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 114 26.29 3280 1314 58364 6987 93.6 0.961 ! Near Maximum !
+05.0 116 26.54 3313 1341 60435 7050 94.0 0.947 ! Near Maximum !

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 25.28 3324 1349 60577 6935 97.1 0.945 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 25.28 2935 1052 42067 6235 83.1 1.109

25-06 with lighter bullets

Cartridge : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet : .257, 85, Nosler BalTip 43004
Useable Case Capaci: 62.794 grain H2O = 4.077 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.250 inch = 82.55 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 84 46.87 3194 1925 46708 10559 98.4 1.136
-09.0 85 47.39 3224 1962 48101 10654 98.7 1.121
-08.0 86 47.91 3255 2000 49532 10745 98.9 1.106
-07.0 86 48.43 3286 2037 51001 10832 99.1 1.091
-06.0 87 48.96 3316 2075 52511 10916 99.3 1.077
-05.0 88 49.48 3346 2113 54062 10995 99.5 1.062
-04.0 89 50.00 3376 2151 55655 11071 99.6 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 90 50.52 3406 2189 57292 11142 99.8 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 91 51.04 3436 2228 58973 11209 99.9 1.021 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 92 51.56 3465 2266 60701 11272 99.9 1.008 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 93 52.08 3495 2305 62476 11330 100.0 0.995 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 94 52.60 3524 2343 64301 11384 100.0 0.982 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 95 53.12 3553 2382 66176 11434 100.0 0.970 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 96 53.64 3582 2421 68104 11483 100.0 0.958 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 97 54.16 3610 2460 70085 11531 100.0 0.946 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 98 54.68 3639 2499 72122 11578 100.0 0.934 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 93 52.08 3607 2456 72019 11008 100.0 0.934 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 93 52.08 3331 2094 52863 11367 97.4 1.075

30-06 with light bullets

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125
Useable Case Capaci: 64.473 grain H2O = 4.186 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 92 52.78 2951 2418 43693 8445 95.0 1.148
-09.0 93 53.36 2982 2468 45080 8540 95.4 1.132
-08.0 94 53.95 3013 2520 46510 8632 95.8 1.116
-07.0 95 54.54 3044 2571 47985 8722 96.2 1.100
-06.0 96 55.12 3074 2624 49507 8809 96.6 1.085
-05.0 97 55.71 3105 2676 51078 8893 97.0 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 98 56.29 3136 2729 52699 8975 97.3 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 99 56.88 3166 2783 54373 9053 97.6 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 100 57.47 3197 2836 56100 9129 97.9 1.026 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 101 58.05 3227 2891 57884 9202 98.2 1.012 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 102 58.64 3258 2945 59725 9271 98.5 0.998 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 103 59.23 3288 3000 61628 9338 98.7 0.984 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 104 59.81 3318 3056 63594 9401 98.9 0.971 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 105 60.40 3348 3112 65625 9460 99.1 0.958 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 106 60.99 3378 3168 67724 9517 99.3 0.945 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 107 61.57 3408 3224 69894 9569 99.5 0.933 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 102 58.64 3391 3192 69940 9103 100.0 0.933 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 102 58.64 3078 2629 49707 9025 93.2 1.082

338 Win Mag with light bullets

Cartridge : .338 Win Mag.
Bullet : .338, 200, Nosler AccuBond 56382
Useable Case Capaci: 74.992 grain H2O = 4.869 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 88 58.99 2661 3146 46014 8479 98.4 1.265
-09.0 89 59.64 2688 3208 47401 8559 98.7 1.248
-08.0 90 60.30 2714 3270 48829 8635 98.9 1.231
-07.0 91 60.95 2739 3333 50297 8709 99.1 1.215
-06.0 92 61.61 2765 3396 51808 8779 99.3 1.199
-05.0 93 62.26 2791 3459 53363 8847 99.4 1.183
-04.0 94 62.92 2817 3523 54963 8912 99.6 1.167
-03.0 95 63.57 2842 3587 56610 8974 99.7 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 96 64.23 2868 3652 58305 9033 99.8 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 97 64.88 2893 3717 60051 9088 99.9 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 98 65.54 2918 3782 61848 9141 99.9 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 99 66.20 2943 3847 63699 9190 100.0 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 100 66.85 2968 3913 65605 9236 100.0 1.079 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 101 67.51 2993 3979 67569 9278 100.0 1.066 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 102 68.16 3018 4045 69592 9320 100.0 1.052 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 103 68.82 3043 4111 71677 9361 100.0 1.039 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 98 65.54 3012 4029 71882 8833 100.0 1.041 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 98 65.54 2781 3436 51894 9192 97.1 1.195

I ran those, just to give you a snapshot of the usefulness of Varget..

bbearhntr · Feb 23, 2013

Im on my way to get some!

Woodycreek · Feb 23, 2013

I love Varget for lightweight bullets in the 243 and 308. Has real promise in the AR with the heavy stuff. Worked very well in a buddies 22-250 with 50gr BTs.

FOTIS · Feb 23, 2013

Varget for my 308 Sako Finnwolf! Works great

hunting1 · Feb 24, 2013

Everyone knows how well Varget works in 308 family cartridges and 223, but it is what I use in my 06 with 165's as well! Varget is awsome! I still have around 4-lbs left.

bbearhntr · Feb 24, 2013

bbearhntr":1kxk0a9c said:
Im on my way to get some!

Grabbed 6 cans and 1k Fed 210 primers. Also nabbed the last Zeiss Conquest 3-9×40. Add a couple sets of dies and scope covers and they threw in a free t-shirt. The reloading department was full of people! The factory ammo shelves were pretty bare though. Thanks for letting me know they had some supplies WT! I have been scrambling lately like everyone else. Sitting pretty good now though.

SJB358 · Feb 25, 2013

bbearhntr":1v76n8gy said:
bbearhntr":1v76n8gy said:

Im on my way to get some!

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Grabbed 6 cans and 1k Fed 210 primers. Also nabbed the last Zeiss Conquest 3-9×40. Add a couple sets of dies and scope covers and they threw in a free t-shirt. The reloading department was full of people! The factory ammo shelves were pretty bare though. Thanks for letting me know they had some supplies WT! I have been scrambling lately like everyone else. Sitting pretty good now though.

Wow, that was a good haul right there!

DrMike · Feb 25, 2013

bbh,

You did well, indeed! I would have preferred a hat rather than a tee-shirt, but they were promoting the store in any case. :grin: It is good to see those from the forum benefiting one another.

CatskillCrawler · Feb 25, 2013

Nice score BBH! You should post that in the "Hunting" section! :wink:

wisconsinteacher · Feb 25, 2013

They had a lot of LR primers but zero handgun ammo. All I needed was some powder and turkey ammo. I am happy you were able to get there. Next time just buy some stuff for me and leave it at the service counter.

bbearhntr · Mar 19, 2013

Was back in Scheels a day ago and they had just received (10) 8lb jugs of Varget. They were $189.00 a piece, a little higher than usual but not a huge increase in price. They also had many bricks of primers. The sales manager said he had been promised they were due to receive some .22 LR ammo in the near future as well. I hope things settle down here in the coming months and the store shelves become stocked once again. Maybe I am just delusional???

FOTIS · Mar 19, 2013

bbearhntr":3ptrwhhy said:
Was back in Scheels a day ago and they had just received (10) 8lb jugs of Varget. They were $189.00 a piece, a little higher than usual but not a huge increase in price. They also had many bricks of primers. The sales manager said he had been promised they were due to receive some .22 LR ammo in the near future as well. I hope things settle down here in the coming months and the store shelves become stocked once again. Maybe I am just delusional???

Who knows. All my buddies hit Wal-mart at 0700 hours everyday for 22 LR ammo before they come to work. That is the time they unpack the ammo....if they have any.