WTB Ruger Number One

Oldtrader3

Oldtrader3

Ammo Smith
Nov 6, 2009
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WTB Ruger Number One in 450/400 NE, .405 Winchester, 9.3x74R or .300 H&H. Want rifle with some figure in buttstock and will use as shooter so being previously shot is no big deal.

I found one, a 9.3x74R, Number One, thanks anyhow guys.
 
Charlie,

A Ruger No. 1 in 9.3x74R would be an awesome rig for just about anything you would ever want to hunt.

JD338
 
Let's say hypothetically you would push the 9.3 to 63K psi.

Cartridge : 9.3 x 74 R
Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756
Useable Case Capaci: 67.980 grain H2O = 4.414 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63149 psi, or 435 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

101 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Ramshot BigGame 105.0 67.9 4.40 2750 99.8 62386 8278 1.118
SNPE Vectan SP 11 105.0 67.9 4.40 2745 99.7 62081 8260 1.121
IMR 4895 101.7 63.7 4.13 2744 99.9 63149 8192 1.126
Alliant Reloder-17 105.0 69.0 4.47 2744 99.8 56913 8692 1.145
Hodgdon BL-C2 96.9 66.3 4.30 2733 100.0 63149 8003 1.127
Norma 203B 103.0 64.5 4.18 2733 99.8 63149 8094 1.127
Raufoss RA11 102.5 64.2 4.16 2732 99.6 63149 8138 1.127
Alliant Reloder-15 102.5 64.2 4.16 2732 99.6 63149 8138 1.127
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 102.5 64.2 4.16 2732 99.6 63149 8138 1.127
Norma 203 old 104.7 66.3 4.30 2731 100.0 63149 7988 1.134
Winchester 748 94.4 63.7 4.12 2726 100.0 63149 7687 1.121
Hodgdon H414 105.0 69.6 4.51 2718 96.5 58982 8627 1.142
Winchester 760 105.0 69.6 4.51 2718 96.5 58982 8627 1.142
Hodgdon H380 103.6 66.3 4.30 2718 98.9 63149 8180 1.131
Hodgdon H4895 98.8 61.9 4.01 2716 99.9 63149 7893 1.130
IMR 4320 104.3 64.3 4.17 2713 99.8 63149 7828 1.114
ADI AR 2206H 99.1 62.1 4.02 2712 99.8 63149 7927 1.130
IMR 3031 102.4 60.0 3.89 2711 100.0 63149 7275 1.127
PB Clermont PCL 516 99.8 66.6 4.32 2708 98.8 63149 8074 1.124
SNPE Vectan SP 9 99.7 64.5 4.18 2706 99.8 63149 7872 1.126
Accurate 2520 99.4 64.2 4.16 2703 100.0 63149 7461 1.140
Lovex D073.6 99.4 64.2 4.16 2703 100.0 63149 7461 1.140
PB Clermont PCL 507 96.1 62.9 4.07 2698 100.0 63149 7650 1.129
Ramshot TAC 93.5 62.7 4.07 2697 100.0 63149 7632 1.129
Somchem S321 94.3 63.6 4.12 2696 100.0 63149 7671 1.134
Lovex S062 103.5 63.1 4.09 2690 100.0 63149 7579 1.138
Somchem S341 97.9 66.0 4.28 2690 99.8 63149 7655 1.127
Hodgdon VARGET 104.8 63.5 4.12 2689 99.5 63149 7810 1.124
ADI AR 2208 104.4 63.5 4.12 2689 99.5 63149 7810 1.124
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 104.9 66.3 4.30 2688 97.3 63149 7962 1.114
SNPE Vectan SP 7 97.7 65.7 4.26 2687 98.8 63149 7861 1.136
Vihtavuori N530 95.2 60.0 3.88 2686 100.0 63149 7537 1.130
Vihtavuori N540 101.9 64.6 4.18 2682 100.0 63149 7436 1.134
Accurate 2495 102.1 60.5 3.92 2682 100.0 63149 7158 1.163
IMR 8208 XBR 97.3 61.0 3.95 2678 100.0 63149 7463 1.131
Norma 201 95.9 61.4 3.98 2678 100.0 63149 7533 1.144
Norma 202 99.6 61.4 3.98 2677 100.0 63149 7275 1.137
IMR 4007 SSC 104.9 66.6 4.32 2675 96.3 63149 8024 1.135
Rottweil R903 105.0 65.1 4.22 2674 99.8 59108 7849 1.168
Somchem S355 105.0 64.4 4.17 2672 99.8 59660 7847 1.161
Rottweil R902 102.1 61.7 4.00 2669 100.0 63149 7433 1.145
IMR 4064 105.0 62.2 4.03 2668 99.6 62073 7628 1.137
Hodgdon H322 95.2 57.9 3.75 2667 100.0 63149 7045 1.130
Accurate 2460 93.0 62.5 4.05 2666 100.0 63149 7267 1.149
Lovex D073.5 93.0 62.5 4.05 2666 100.0 63149 7267 1.149
Alliant AR-Comp 97.4 59.0 3.82 2661 100.0 63149 6725 1.135
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 96.8 59.0 3.82 2661 100.0 63149 6726 1.135
Vihtavuori N550 105.0 67.2 4.36 2654 98.1 54268 8413 1.192
Lovex D073.4 91.4 61.4 3.98 2653 100.0 63149 7149 1.146
Accurate 2230 91.4 61.4 3.98 2653 100.0 63149 7149 1.146
Rottweil R901 98.1 58.4 3.78 2653 100.0 63149 7128 1.155
Vihtavuori N140 101.8 62.5 4.05 2651 100.0 63149 6985 1.136
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 98.4 61.2 3.96 2651 99.9 63149 7332 1.132
ADI AR 2210 90.5 58.5 3.79 2643 100.0 63149 7122 1.136
Lovex S060 99.0 60.4 3.91 2641 99.8 63149 7299 1.134
Alliant Reloder-12 95.0 60.7 3.93 2638 100.0 63149 6884 1.136
Hodgdon Benchmark 96.2 59.4 3.85 2636 100.0 63149 7084 1.137
ADI AR 2206 98.3 60.9 3.95 2631 99.9 63149 7189 1.135
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 105.0 65.4 4.24 2629 97.6 59234 7720 1.153
Alliant Reloder-10x 92.7 54.8 3.55 2618 100.0 63149 6619 1.150
Accurate 2015 94.2 57.1 3.70 2610 100.0 63149 6550 1.155
Somchem S335 99.4 60.9 3.95 2609 100.0 63149 6704 1.151
Accurate 2700 105.0 67.9 4.40 2604 95.7 61774 7468 1.153
Accurate 4064 105.0 61.5 3.99 2604 100.0 54755 7338 1.230
Rottweil R907 105.0 64.6 4.18 2594 95.2 56937 7812 1.187
Vihtavuori N133 101.3 58.1 3.76 2587 100.0 63149 6347 1.144
Vihtavuori N135 105.0 59.6 3.87 2577 100.0 56614 6697 1.195
Norma URP 105.0 65.1 4.22 2573 97.2 48843 8120 1.241
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 65.1 4.22 2572 97.2 48794 8115 1.242
IMR 4198 92.2 51.8 3.36 2572 100.0 63149 6151 1.139
Vihtavuori N130 95.5 55.9 3.62 2571 100.0 63149 6265 1.152
Lovex S065 105.0 64.4 4.17 2568 96.8 53999 7732 1.216
Kazan Sunar 308W 91.0 55.8 3.62 2566 100.0 63149 6246 1.153
Ramshot Hunter 105.0 67.9 4.40 2565 95.0 48518 8260 1.241
Norma 204 105.0 67.9 4.40 2560 91.8 51325 8056 1.216
Lovex S070 105.0 65.1 4.22 2545 95.0 51282 7848 1.241
Somchem S365 105.0 65.4 4.24 2527 99.1 43444 8046 1.296
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 105.0 66.8 4.33 2526 93.7 49052 7865 1.248
IMR 4350 105.0 65.4 4.24 2522 93.6 50454 7659 1.234
Vihtavuori N150 105.0 62.1 4.02 2517 99.7 50589 7192 1.245
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 63.7 4.12 2479 98.0 44728 7478 1.289
Hodgdon H4350 105.0 64.4 4.17 2473 92.6 47520 7514 1.267
Raufoss RA4 105.0 65.8 4.26 2470 90.0 45996 7760 1.277
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 65.8 4.26 2470 90.0 45996 7760 1.277
Accurate 4350 105.0 62.9 4.08 2451 95.5 41394 7850 1.349
ADI AR 2209 105.0 65.4 4.24 2443 89.0 44162 7764 1.297
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 65.8 4.26 2431 89.0 42699 7793 1.318
IMR 4831 105.0 63.0 4.08 2428 95.5 41140 7625 1.348
Rottweil R904 105.0 64.9 4.20 2426 88.4 45433 7402 1.292
Somchem S361 105.0 70.1 4.54 2420 87.5 46706 7289 1.287
Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 69.4 4.50 2414 89.0 44183 7486 1.303
Norma MRP 105.0 68.7 4.45 2410 88.7 38440 8312 1.372
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 65.8 4.26 2406 88.5 41738 7661 1.333
Somchem S385 105.0 66.5 4.31 2390 90.2 40506 7552 1.359
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 67.6 4.38 2371 83.8 40091 7753 1.354
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 66.5 4.31 2357 84.6 41414 7310 1.342
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 67.2 4.36 2349 82.6 37411 7856 1.395
ADI AR 2213 105.0 66.5 4.31 2347 83.5 39570 7586 1.364
Raufoss RA15 105.0 66.5 4.31 2342 85.8 36726 7793 1.406
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 66.5 4.31 2342 85.8 36726 7793 1.406
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 66.5 4.31 2342 85.8 36726 7793 1.406
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 69.9 4.53 2303 79.1 35906 7662 1.425
Rottweil R905 105.0 65.3 4.23 2276 82.1 35694 7246 1.429
Winchester WXR 105.0 65.1 4.22 2269 83.7 33794 7486 1.456
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 63.9 4.14 2252 82.0 36388 6906 1.424
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 63.1 4.09 2240 84.1 36714 6654 1.426
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 65.1 4.22 2233 85.9 34811 6820 1.450
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 67.1 4.35 2231 78.1 35965 6908 1.434
IMR 7828 105.0 63.9 4.14 2216 79.5 33416 7100 1.466
Ramshot Magnum 105.0 70.4 4.57 2207 78.5 33558 7294 1.470
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 70.2 4.55 2201 78.5 33274 7264 1.475
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 65.4 4.24 2196 85.2 30773 7411 1.510
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 70.2 4.55 2195 78.1 33107 7237 1.479
ADI AP 2214 105.0 68.3 4.43 2182 77.9 34139 6868 1.467
Accurate 3100 105.0 62.2 4.03 2126 86.0 28174 6716 1.589
Lovex S071 105.0 62.2 4.03 2126 86.0 28174 6716 1.589
Norma MRP 2 105.0 65.8 4.26 2086 75.5 27132 6879 1.602
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 65.1 4.22 2046 73.4 28887 6225 1.578
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 69.4 4.50 2016 64.1 26528 6514 1.626
Alliant Reloder 33 105.0 72.3 4.69 1994 64.1 26317 6424 1.636
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 66.2 4.29 1970 71.7 24882 6261 1.675
Lovex D100 105.0 70.8 4.59 1958 62.6 28033 5506 1.615
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 65.1 4.22 1945 66.8 25048 5705 1.680
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 70.1 4.54 1916 57.6 26568 5395 1.650
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 101.6 31.8 2.06 1874 100.0 63149 2799 1.335
ADI AR 2218 105.0 70.1 4.54 1871 53.8 24852 5272 1.695
Hodgdon H870 105.0 67.9 4.40 1836 59.8 21550 5570 1.781
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 66.8 4.33 1777 50.5 21791 4816 1.788
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0 69.6 4.51 1764 51.9 19205 5220 1.864
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 70.1 4.54 1763 52.6 21426 4799 1.806
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 71.2 4.61 1737 53.1 18860 5270 1.881
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 67.2 4.36 1721 55.8 19328 4784 1.876
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 67.2 4.36 1672 52.4 18410 4491 1.919
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 70.8 4.59 1638 48.3 18100 4329 1.941
Accurate 8700 105.0 67.4 4.37 1638 49.7 18294 4148 1.936
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 64.4 4.17 1589 36.7 19042 3259 1.928
 
FOTIS":1wmnz79a said:
Let's say hypothetically you would push the 9.3 to 63K psi.

Cartridge : 9.3 x 74 R
Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756
Useable Case Capaci: 67.980 grain H2O = 4.414 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
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I would call it a 375 H&H. :mrgreen:

JD338
 
I can get 2450 fps with the 287 gr bullet which is plenty of hoursepower. With the Number One rifle I may be able to exceed that velocity but this is just a hobby rifle. I am looking forward to getting it.

It is a different gun than the one in the ad.

Do you think that the 250 grainAccubond would go through an elk?
 
Oldtrader3":1fs458e9 said:
I can get 2450 fps with the 287 gr bullet which is plenty of hoursepower. With the Number One rifle I may be able to exceed that velocity but this is just a hobby rifle. I am looking forward to getting it.

It is a different gun than the one in the ad.

Do you think that the 250 grainAccubond would go through an elk?
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I have some experience using the AccuBond bullets on either side of the 250 gr 9.3 mm, namely the 35 cal 225 and 375 cal 260 gr. I wouldn't say they would exit all the time since they open pretty wide but they penetrate more than far enough, you will have no worries with them. Congrats on the new gun, keep us posted.
 
Thanks Gerry, now I do not feel so cranky about selling the .340. The 287 gr Partition ought to through anything that I want to shoot even at these pedestrian velocities.

Fotis, pretty notable velocities at 70 KSI. However, I don't think that I want to go there with a bore this size.
 
Oldtrader3":hlfxyfzd said:
Fotis, pretty notable velocities at 70 KSI. However, I don't think that I want to go there with a bore this size.
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This theoretical prediction run was set at 63000 PSI not 70. In layman's terms 2k PSI under 308 Win max.

Again theoretical.
As far as the 250 AB on elk? No doubt in my mind that it would perform admirably.
 
I would be happy for somone with the sofware to run a 53 KSI profile for that that gun. I do not know what that commutes to in handload data because everything is set at for about 45 KSI for the break action simgle shot European guns for that caliber not the lockup Number One guns like the Ruger. Mayby somebody could give me a 53000 PSI run for this rifle that would get me started on the road to reality? I would be indebted for that service, thank you.
 
Charlie,

Here are some powders you might consider:

Cartridge : 9.3 x 74 R
Bullet : .366, 286, Nosler PART SP 44750
Useable Case Capaci: 67.955 grain H2O = 4.412 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 51000 psi, or 351 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

6 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP 109.8 71.8 4.65 2514 96.3 51000 9205 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 110.0 70.4 4.56 2454 91.3 49264 8937 1.301 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 102.9 66.5 4.31 2453 97.5 51000 8339 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 108.8 70.0 4.54 2447 92.0 51000 8670 1.283 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 106.9 64.1 4.15 2447 99.0 51000 8112 1.313 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 102.4 63.4 4.11 2445 98.9 51000 8085 1.298 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 97.1 64.3 4.17 2444 96.7 51000 8262 1.295 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 97.1 64.3 4.17 2444 96.7 51000 8262 1.295 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 99.2 63.5 4.12 2442 98.8 51000 8168 1.305 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 110.0 69.7 4.51 2440 93.9 48445 8751 1.312 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 107.1 67.1 4.35 2436 94.5 51000 8361 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 107.6 64.6 4.18 2432 99.0 51000 7935 1.307 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 73.3 4.75 2423 88.7 47927 8830 1.320 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.3 63.8 4.13 2420 99.8 51000 7515 1.295 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 101.4 65.6 4.25 2411 94.2 51000 8093 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 94.5 59.8 3.88 2403 99.9 51000 7532 1.328 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 96.6 59.9 3.88 2397 99.9 51000 7462 1.328 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 108.0 68.4 4.43 2392 91.3 51000 8033 1.295 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 105.7 69.8 4.52 2391 94.0 51000 7924 1.296 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 93.6 59.9 3.88 2391 98.6 51000 7684 1.322 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 98.4 57.6 3.73 2377 100.0 51000 7006 1.354 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 110.0 68.4 4.43 2373 90.7 47032 8228 1.337 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 99.5 61.0 3.95 2368 97.8 51000 7539 1.327 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 110.0 68.2 4.42 2366 92.3 44220 8491 1.369
IMR 4007 SSC 95.0 60.3 3.91 2356 95.8 51000 7536 1.325 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 91.4 54.2 3.51 2355 100.0 51000 6690 1.364 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 110.0 73.8 4.78 2352 89.7 45301 8570 1.353 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 67.0 4.34 2336 90.2 47381 7837 1.338 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 110.0 67.0 4.34 2320 89.1 43517 8206 1.379
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 68.2 4.42 2316 93.6 45730 7621 1.362 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 66.1 4.28 2310 91.5 47488 7462 1.347 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 68.5 4.44 2307 94.7 40062 8473 1.425

Here is a projection using N560, one of my favourite powders:

Cartridge : 9.3 x 74 R
Bullet : .366, 286, Nosler PART SP 44750
Useable Case Capaci: 67.955 grain H2O = 4.412 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Vihtavuori N560

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 89 57.20 1935 2379 26084 6612 77.7 1.717
-18.0 92 58.63 1989 2512 27880 6883 79.4 1.670
-16.0 94 60.06 2043 2651 29804 7153 81.0 1.625
-14.0 96 61.49 2098 2795 31895 7419 82.6 1.581
-12.0 98 62.92 2153 2945 34139 7681 84.1 1.537
-10.0 101 64.35 2210 3100 36563 7937 85.6 1.495
-08.0 103 65.78 2266 3262 39182 8187 87.1 1.447
-06.0 105 67.21 2324 3429 42018 8429 88.5 1.400
-04.0 107 68.64 2382 3602 45095 8663 89.8 1.355 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 109 70.07 2440 3780 48436 8886 91.1 1.311 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 112 71.50 2499 3965 52074 9098 92.3 1.269 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 114 72.93 2558 4155 56042 9297 93.4 1.227 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 116 74.36 2618 4352 60378 9482 94.4 1.188 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 118 75.79 2678 4555 65136 9652 95.4 1.149 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 121 77.22 2739 4763 70364 9806 96.3 1.111 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 123 78.65 2800 4978 76129 9942 97.1 1.075 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 112 71.50 2663 4502 63490 9322 98.1 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 112 71.50 2295 3344 42232 8356 82.3 1.401

Here is Ramshot Hunter, a powder which is somewhat hard to come by in Canada:

Cartridge : 9.3 x 74 R
Bullet : .366, 286, Nosler PART SP 44750
Useable Case Capaci: 67.955 grain H2O = 4.412 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Ramshot Hunter

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 83 53.60 1968 2459 27323 6510 87.7 1.692
-18.0 85 54.94 2017 2584 29117 6731 89.0 1.649
-16.0 87 56.28 2067 2714 31035 6947 90.2 1.606
-14.0 89 57.62 2117 2847 33075 7157 91.4 1.565
-12.0 91 58.96 2168 2984 35276 7360 92.5 1.525
-10.0 93 60.30 2218 3124 37623 7555 93.6 1.482
-08.0 95 61.64 2268 3268 40137 7741 94.6 1.439
-06.0 97 62.98 2319 3415 42832 7919 95.5 1.396
-04.0 99 64.32 2370 3565 45726 8086 96.3 1.355 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 102 65.66 2420 3719 48834 8243 97.1 1.316 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 104 67.00 2471 3877 52178 8387 97.7 1.277 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 106 68.34 2521 4037 55781 8520 98.3 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 108 69.68 2572 4200 59667 8639 98.8 1.205 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 110 71.02 2622 4367 63865 8745 99.2 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 112 72.36 2673 4536 68407 8836 99.5 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 114 73.70 2723 4708 73333 8911 99.8 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 104 67.00 2593 4271 63391 8222 100.0 1.183 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 104 67.00 2306 3376 42424 8080 90.9 1.400
 
Thanks DrMike for the data, I have quite a bit of IMR 7828 on hand. It appears that that powder will work fine for my needs. Howvever, you made a couple of recomendations and I must ask if you prefer MRP and Ramshot over IMR 7828 SSC?
 
I must ask if you prefer MRP and Ramshot over IMR 7828 SSC?
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Not particularly, Charlie. I do use quite a bit of VihtaVuori and Ramshot powders, however. I do like the VihtaVuori powders, and especially the double base powders. They have served me well. I will not, however, argue that they are superior to IMR.

Cartridge : 9.3 x 74 R
Bullet : .366, 286, Nosler PART SP 44750
Useable Case Capaci: 67.955 grain H2O = 4.412 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.720 inch = 94.49 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : IMR 7828 SSC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 88 56.32 1902 2298 25828 6301 77.1 1.727
-18.0 90 57.73 1955 2427 27620 6567 78.9 1.680
-16.0 92 59.14 2008 2561 29550 6831 80.6 1.633
-14.0 94 60.54 2063 2702 31634 7092 82.2 1.588
-12.0 96 61.95 2118 2848 33884 7348 83.8 1.544
-10.0 98 63.36 2174 3001 36318 7599 85.4 1.500
-08.0 101 64.77 2230 3159 38951 7843 86.9 1.452
-06.0 103 66.18 2288 3323 41816 8079 88.3 1.405
-04.0 105 67.58 2345 3493 44929 8305 89.7 1.359
-02.0 107 68.99 2404 3670 48318 8521 91.0 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 70.40 2463 3853 52021 8724 92.3 1.271 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 71.81 2523 4042 56075 8914 93.4 1.229 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 73.22 2583 4237 60524 9089 94.5 1.188 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 116 74.62 2644 4439 65425 9247 95.5 1.149 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 76.03 2705 4647 70838 9387 96.4 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 77.44 2767 4862 76839 9507 97.3 1.073 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 70.40 2627 4382 62861 8930 98.3 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 70.40 2260 3242 42506 7980 82.0 1.402
 
I also have 4064 and 3031 both of which seem to give very high velocities with this case. I will just have to get out the chrono and go to work. Thanks for the data guys, although I don't think 70KSI in in the cards for this number One. However, 2450 fps is possible for the 279 grain bullet and that would be a great load for anything that I ever shoot and in a cartridge that is nearly 100 years old!

I am really stoked about this rifle and have not had a Number One Ruger for many years.
 
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