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 Post subject: Accuracy, speed, protecting the flock..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:33 am 

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Not a new photo, just an older photo of my well-worn 1997 vintage 45 Kimber 1911:
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Was at the range over the weekend training a four-man security team. We started at modest range with the "one hole drill" - which is just shooting five shots into one ragged hole in the paper target. Well, only the old 45 Kimber managed that. BTW, I was cheating and using 185 grain Nosler match grade ammo.

Three of the guys were using various compact 9mm pistols, one had a tiny Ruger 380 pistol, which he did amazingly well with given it's diminutive size.

We did a lot of other defensive shooting drills and eventually I took them back to 25 yards, which to them seemed an incredible distance with a pistol. Set up my steel IPSC style target and had them take shots at it. Honestly, they did pretty well, hitting the silhouette pretty regularly. Then I put shot after shot on the 4" x 4" head of the silhouette target, with that ol' beat up Kimber. :grin:

I was showing off a little, but also wanted them to see what is possible with a self-defense handgun, and a good amount of practice. Not sure, but I may have convinced at least a couple of them to at least try a bigger, higher quality firearm, something easier to shoot well.

Where I do praise them tremendously.... They're four good men, seeking training to better protect their church & congregation. I have no doubt about the courage of each of them. Now, they've got some skills to go with that courage!

Each went through a few hundred rounds, likely more ammo than they'd ever shot in a single training session. They came away with much higher confidence, and a whole new set of skills. I taught them all a series of defensive pistol drills that they can continue to practice on their own. Not once that day did we stress speed, I just told them that the speed will come. The more they practice, the faster and smoother they'll get. They actually made some great progress in just a few hours.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:36 am 
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Good stuff Guy. Those Kimbers are like a fine wine, they get better with age!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:01 am 

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Guy, you have me wondering.

I never thought to conceal my Kimber 1911. I have been concealing the SigP229, mainly wanted to stick with 9mm as the others are shooting 9mm.

I’ve never put the Kimber against the P229 to see which I can shoot better.

Looks like something to figure out.
another reason I need to go to the range.... :)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:17 am 

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Well done.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:57 pm 
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FWIW, when my wife and oldest daughter took the CPL class, they both struggled with the live fire portion when using my Ruger LC9. The instructor gave me that look and I approached him and said I had my Kimber Tactical Pro II 45 ACP in the truck. He told me to assist my daughter.
Danielle was reluctant but shot the first round and said "This isn't bad at all Dad!" and proceeded to put two magazines into one ragged hole about 1" right of the x at 7 yards! The instructor saw that smiling and said she passed, now go help Sue. Sue pretty much did the same and both passed.
Yeah, those Kimber triggers are nice!
If I know there could be a bad situation, like a movie theater shopping mall, etc. I always take my Kimber.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:39 pm 

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Ya, it's so much easier to shoot well with a good size, quality handgun.

Those little compact handguns, pocket guns, belly guns... They carry well, but dang, they're difficult to shoot well. A while back one student of mine tried the little 9mm Kahr and asked "Does that thing always feel like it's trying to jump out of your hand?"

Yes, yes it does. :grin:

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