375 H&H

ColColt

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Apr 27, 2014
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I'm giving serious thought to a M70 Super Grade 375 H&H. Those that have this caliber what would you liken the recoil to...45-70, 35 Whelen or maybe the 300 Bee Magnum? I've sit at the bench and fired 30-40 rounds from the Browning 1885 BPCR 45-70 and wondered if it may be comparable.
 
The closest thing I can approximate it to is a 12ga with sabot slugs.

All of mine hit harder than a 45-70 but didn't have the "crack" that the .300WBY or .338WM has. Lot of recoil, but a relatively slow impulse.
 
ColColt":ag2nqe5y said:
I'm giving serious thought to a M70 Super Grade 375 H&H. Those that have this caliber what would you liken the recoil to...45-70, 35 Whelen or maybe the 300 Bee Magnum? I've sit at the bench and fired 30-40 rounds from the Browning 1885 BPCR 45-70 and wondered if it may be comparable.


I fired a heavy Brno 375 H&H that was super easy to shoot with 270 gr factory loads but those are not much above a good 35 Whelen hand load in performance. The Marlin guide gun in 45-70 and 450 Marlin felt much worse in comparison but those stocks don't fit me well. The 375 Ruger and the 358 Norma kick harder than that gun did but they are also loaded much faster than that 375 H&H load did.

In short if the gun fits well you will have no issues especially if you load bullets like the 235 gr Speer, 250 gr Sierra and 250 gr TTSX at around 2700 fps or so it will be even nicer.
 
I'm giving serious thought to a custom .375... looking to finish it under 8.5lbs...the "go to" load will be 250-260gr at 2600; for moose and such no need to go full bore 300r
 
Both of mine, the Model 70 and the Ruger Number One, recoil substantially more with 300's than they do with 260/270 gr bullets.

Both have what I'd describe as a "big push" rather than a harsh smack as far as recoil is concerned.

A well shaped stock helps, as does a good recoil pad. Partial to the Pachmayer Decelerator myself.

Really, I was quite pleased to learn that the recoil was very easy to manage. I even shoot mine from prone at the 300 yard gong here at the range. Usually 20 shots is enough to satisfy me though.

Very good accuracy potential too - which also impresses me.

Regards, Guy
 
I believe this rifle weighs right at 9 pounds and I don' t think I'd want it any lighter. I've shot the Marlin 45-70 and it was rough but not as bad as a Rolling Block carbine in the same caliber with a brass crescent shaped butt. That will get your attention.

I got sort of bummed out when I found this rifle I'm looking at was in part, made in Portugal. I don't know what they do for Winchester but was quite distraught about it. It's a fine looking rifle but just the thought of it not being 100% Winchester(FN) sort of put the desire in the back seat.

I think I could take the recoil but what bothers me most is a rifle that smacks you on the jaw bone when fired. I just sold one due to that.
 
I understand that the parts are made here in the USA and assembled in Portugal.

I find the .375 with factory level loads EASIER to shoot than the .45/70 with max level handloads. Then again, I did load the Marlin pretty warm.
 
I never used smokeless in the 45-70 but rather a 530 gr "Postell" bullet behind 64-66 gr of Swiss 1.5 powder. I've only shot BP in the 45-70 or 38-55. It's a good push with the 530 gr bullet but no pain.
 
I just looked over MRC and they've got some nice looking rifles. I didn't know they existed. Their 375 rifles are a bit light an 7 1/2 pounds. Maybe Cooper can get some competition now.
 
I'm pretty sure MRC would build it a little heavier if requested. The only MRC rifles I've handled were a little heavier than I thought they would be, until picked up. Kind of surprised me, as I was looking at their .30-06 rifle.

They're good for some custom or semi-custom work.

Guy
 
:shock: just buy the brake and the thread protector so you can take the brake off whenever Ya want to ! These will cut felt recoil close to 50 % :mrgreen:

 
I'll bet the muzzle blast from that thing would knock the ears off a brass mule.
 
Yeah, I have become pretty wary of anything braked. Standing near Brian firing his 300 RUM and 338-375 with the brake will rattle your bones. Granted, those two are a little more high intensity than an H&H but I couldn't imagine feeling one of those touch off without ear pro... I think we'd end up in a fist fight.
 
From time-to-time I've shot braked rifles for others off the bench. I can't say that I enjoy it when I'm behind the rifle, and I know that others don't appreciate the wash of hot gasses if they are close at hand. I assuredly don't enjoy being next to someone torching off a braked rifle. My tinnitus is problematic enough without making it worse. I had a hunting partner that used to use a barked BAR (7 RM). It only took once of him firing that critter when situated to my left before I made it a point to draw back whenever we went into the bush.
 
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