Got Me A Short Tumper

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I have read where some think the 350 Rem Mag should have been discontinued, that it kicks to hard and you can't hit the side of a barn with it. Well, I disagree with all of the above statements. I got my Mod 7 350 Rem Mag and tried it out before I drew any conclusions of the above statements made by many who really don't know the cartridge. I have bought one, loaded for one, and fired one and here are my conclusions.

First, it is a great cartridge.

Second, it does not kick real hard.

Third, I can hit the side of a barn, in fact I can hit any 1" square you mark off on the side of the barn.

Fourth, this cartridge has plenty of potential and lots of power all in a short barreled rifle to get the job done.

Fifth, I am glad Remington has seen fit to continue it and it is a blast to shoot. I will drop some game with this little-big-thumper for sure!!!!

 

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I have read where some think the 350 Rem Mag should have been discontinued, that it kicks to hard and you can't hit the side of a barn with it. Well, I disagree with all of the above statements. I got my Mod 7 350 Rem Mag and tried it out before I drew any conclusions of the above statements made by many who really don't know the cartridge. I have bought one, loaded for one, and fired one and here are my conclusions.

First, it is a great cartridge.

Second, it does not kick real hard.

Third, I can hit the side of a barn, in fact I can hit any 1" square you mark off on the side of the barn.

Fourth, this cartridge has plenty of potential and lots of power all in a short barreled rifle to get the job done.

Fifth, I am glad Remington has seen fit to continue it and it is a blast to shoot. I will drop some game with this little-big-thumper for sure!!!!

............................................It just goes to show ya that there are the few who draw conclusions based on their own ignorance and/or unwillingness to gain a little knowledge!.........Some will say;;"COMPACT RIFLES?" "WHY HELL!" "They ain`t worth a damn!!" "Too much velocity loss!" "Not as accurate!" "I`d NEVER own one of those!" BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!..................The TRUTH is; that your compact 350 Remy & my smaller compact 300 WSM, WILL play right along with the big boys; anywhere, anytime, on any game, with only a small % of velocity loss, be just as accurate and be just as deadly!!...............We let our chronys and our cartridges do the talking!.....Right Bullet?.........

 

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Well, until I shot this one I was not really a believer until I saw the accuracy and power I was getting for such a short handy rifle and cartridge. Now I know what my Big Fast Shooting Weatherby mag will do and have killed a lot of game with them and they are deadly up close or far off, it makes no difference and they are highly accurate. Now outside of dropping game with this 350 Rem Mag which many have done and given testimony to, I have yet to see for myself. Now I do not doubt it will do a bang up job from 0-300yds with my load and all I have to do is hold center of target and pull the trigger. I did a lot of killing with my 35 Whelen which this 350 Rem Mag is out preforming in velocity and energy. I also have killed a lot with my Ruger M77 338 mag using a 225gr load and I am only 70fps behind that cartridge. So in light of the above I will have to agree, we don't have to apologize for the use of a short action, short barreled rifle with a Hot, Short little Big cartridge like the 350Rem mag.

 

[JD338]

bullet,

I have no doubt about what your 350 RM can/will do. I have used the 35 Whelen (M700 Classic w/ 22" barrel) enough to know just how well it flattens game with one shot and just how accurate it shoots at 300 yds.
Its very impressive to have more velocity and energy than my 35 Whelen and with a shorter barrel. And yes, its nipping on the heels of a 338 Win Mag.
The 35 cals are under appreciated for sure.

The 225 gr PT is all the bullet you need for your short barreled hammer. :wink:

JD338

 

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bullet,

I have no doubt about what your 350 RM can/will do. I have used the 35 Whelen (M700 Classic w/ 22" barrel) enough to know just how well it flattens game with one shot and just how accurate it shoots at 300 yds.
Its very impressive to have more velocity and energy than my 35 Whelen and with a shorter barrel. And yes, its nipping on the heels of a 338 Win Mag.
The 35 cals are under appreciated for sure.

The 225 gr PT is all the bullet you need for your short barreled hammer. :wink:

JD338

I am inclined to agree with you that the 35 cartridges have been over looked. They are impressive killers and very accurate. From my experience with the 35 Whelen Mod 700 CDL and how it killed game is the reason I believe this 350 Rem mag will more than do the job. I think the Partition is a perfect match for an all around bullet for the 350 Mag.

 

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I went to the range this morning and have now two loads averaging over 2700fps for a 225gr load and tomorrow, weather permitting I will be testing them to see which one is the most accurate and will at that time have my hunting round finalized. One load is 59grs IMR4895 and the other is 60grs of WW748. Both are not showing pressure signs and eject easy and both loads shot very good today. Tomorrow will decide which one I will be using. This is one cool round and the Mod 7 CDL has exceeded my expectations. Also the Weaver V 1-3x20mm holds right on group after group and tracts just as it ought to. I am very pleased and excited about this cartridge, rifle and scope. Should be a lot of fun when hunting season comes back around.

 

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Bullet!................................With your V3 on the 1x, is your front iron site near the muzzle visible through the scope? Depending on the barrel length and the height of the iron site, some have to use high and extra high scope rings!

 

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Bullet!................................With your V3 on the 1x, is your front iron site near the muzzle visible through the scope? Depending on the barrel length and the height of the iron site, some have to use high and extra high scope rings!

If you are anyone is going to use a 1x power just get use to seeing the barrel and if you have front sights you will see them. With my Warne bases and medium rings I see the barrel and the front sight. What is so cool about Warne bases and rings is that they are so true that the front blade of my rifle sight is right in line with the vertical cross hair. It is not a problem nor is it in my way and in fact it gives me the sense that I have open sights. I really like how mine is set up and works. Now on Three power I do not see barrel or sights.

 

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Here is my target for the the 350 Rem Mag. Dropped my 257-300Wby target in a puddle right under the target stand so could not take a picture of it but with Retumbo I had two touching an the third almost touching the other two so this Retumbo load will be my hunting round for my 257-300Wby.

I am shooting the 350 Rem Mag with that Weaver V 1-3x20mm on 3x. If I had better glass might be tighter but this will do for hunting.

59grs IMR4895 2707fps

60grs WW748 2721fps

I can get better accuracy but have to go down to the high 2500fps to get tighter groups but with these groups and Velocities these will be my hunting loads.

 

[tjen]

My three rifles for close to medium shots are all mounted with low rings. A model #14 pump with the weaver V 1-3, a 336D with a VXII 1-4 and a 700 SA with a VXIII 1.5-5. You can see the barrels in all three scopes untill about 2.5-3X power do to their wide field of view. I really do not even notice them any more. Having the scope mounted at the correct level for cheek weld with a naturalhead postion to view throught the scope is very inportant for accuracy. Any higher than neccesary to clear the scope bell or to match the stock design is not good at all. Its like putting one of those 1-2 inch high shoot through scope mounts on a rifle. Its a miss matching of componnts that throughs the rifles balance and the shooters head position off. Hope I described that clearly nough.

 

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Well, not being satisfied with my load work I decided that I could get a tighter group out of the 60grs WW748 load. So, I made sure that my brass was trimmed to close tolerance of 2.169-2.170". Also, my OAL was changed from 2.818" to 2.808" to give the bullet a little more jump just to see if it made a difference in accuracy and velocity. Well it did. First my group went from 1.191" to .959" and my velocity went from 2721fps to 2723fps. Also, there were no over max pressure signs as you will note on the brass below.

 

[JD338]

bullet,

Excellent! Nice velocity too.
You might want to try seating just a little deeper and check your results.
Trying a different primer may also get you where you want to be.

JD338

 

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Bullet!................................With your V3 on the 1x, is your front iron site near the muzzle visible through the scope? Depending on the barrel length and the height of the iron site, some have to use high and extra high scope rings!

If you are anyone is going to use a 1x power just get use to seeing the barrel and if you have front sights you will see them. With my Warne bases and medium rings I see the barrel and the front sight. What is so cool about Warne bases and rings is that they are so true that the front blade of my rifle sight is right in line with the vertical cross hair. It is not a problem nor is it in my way and in fact it gives me the sense that I have open sights. I really like how mine is set up and works. Now on Three power I do not see barrel or sights.

........................................Well! I thought that there was the possibility you could very well see the barrel and the front site through the scope! Your barrel length is the same 20" that will be on my Howa .375 Ruger! The same would also happen to me using the V3 on the low power...........Even though it wouldn`t hamper things, my preference would be to have a clear view with no obstructions. So! I guess that eliminates not only the V3, but any variable with a 1x or maybe even a 1.5x on the low end! I don`t want high or extra high scope rings!.............I am considering the Leupold 2.5x FX2 Ultralite. Only 8" long, weighs 6.5oz., with 4.9" of eye relief. Although more expensive and not as wide as the V3`s FOV, the FX2 still has 40' @100 yards which is respectable and is still quick to the target! A 2.5x can still target elk sized and larger targets sufficiently out to 250-300 yards; maybe even further!....................However! All guided hunts for the big bears, moose, caped buffs, or any game one would use a .375 Ruger on, the shooting distances for the most part, would average under 200 yards anyway!!........

 

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bullet,

Excellent! Nice velocity too.
You might want to try seating just a little deeper and check your results.
Trying a different primer may also get you where you want to be.

JD338

Deeper! How much? Primer! Which one?

 

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Bullet!................................With your V3 on the 1x, is your front iron site near the muzzle visible through the scope? Depending on the barrel length and the height of the iron site, some have to use high and extra high scope rings!

If you are anyone is going to use a 1x power just get use to seeing the barrel and if you have front sights you will see them. With my Warne bases and medium rings I see the barrel and the front sight. What is so cool about Warne bases and rings is that they are so true that the front blade of my rifle sight is right in line with the vertical cross hair. It is not a problem nor is it in my way and in fact it gives me the sense that I have open sights. I really like how mine is set up and works. Now on Three power I do not see barrel or sights.

........................................Well! I thought that there was the possibility you could very well see the barrel and the front site through the scope! Your barrel length is the same 20" that will be on my Howa .375 Ruger! The same would also happen to me using the V3 on the low power...........Even though it wouldn`t hamper things, my preference would be to have a clear view with no obstructions. So! I guess that eliminates not only the V3, but any variable with a 1x or maybe even a 1.5x on the low end! I don`t want high or extra high scope rings!.............I am considering the Leupold 2.5x FX2 Ultralite. Only 8" long, weighs 6.5oz., with 4.9" of eye relief. Although more expensive and not as wide as the V3`s FOV, the FX2 still has 40' @100 yards which is respectable and is still quick to the target! A 2.5x can still target elk sized and larger targets sufficiently out to 250-300 yards; maybe even further!....................However! All guided hunts for the big bears, moose, caped buffs, or any game one would use a .375 Ruger on, the shooting distances for the most part, would average under 200 yards anyway!!........

If you FX2 fails from recoil just remember I mentioned it. just kidding!

 

[JD338]

bullet,

Excellent! Nice velocity too.
You might want to try seating just a little deeper and check your results.
Trying a different primer may also get you where you want to be.

JD338

Deeper! How much? Primer! Which one?

bullet,

Just keep adjusting your seating depth, not sure how much deeper you can go. You might find the sweet spot.
As for primers, I don't recall which one you are using but try a different brand or two. It just might tighten things up for ya.
Keep in mind that shooting under 1" at 100 yds with a 3x scope is damn good!

JD338

 

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JD338, I am going to seat a little deeper going down to 2.800" and try the 250 CCI primer instead of the 210 Fed with the same charge of WW748 and IMR4895 and see it I can tighten it up a little more. If not I still have a good fast accurate hunting load.

 

[JD338]

JD338, I am going to seat a little deeper going down to 2.800" and try the 250 CCI primer instead of the 210 Fed with the same charge of WW748 and IMR4895 and see it I can tighten it up a little more. If not I still have a good fast accurate hunting load.

Good plan.
Nothing to loose, potential better accuracy to gain. :wink:

JD338

 

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JD338, I am going to seat a little deeper going down to 2.800" and try the 250 CCI primer instead of the 210 Fed with the same charge of WW748 and IMR4895 and see it I can tighten it up a little more. If not I still have a good fast accurate hunting load.

Good plan.
Nothing to loose, potential better accuracy to gain. :wink:

JD338

After shooting and loading for this 350 Rem Mag, it is beyond me why it is not more popular especially with it being in the Mod 7 which has proven to be accurate right out of the box. This is one deadly round in a short rifle being only 6" low at 300yds and has a muzzle energy of 3703ft pounds and a big bullet to deliver the punch :?:

 

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Bullet!................................With your V3 on the 1x, is your front iron site near the muzzle visible through the scope? Depending on the barrel length and the height of the iron site, some have to use high and extra high scope rings!

If you are anyone is going to use a 1x power just get use to seeing the barrel and if you have front sights you will see them. With my Warne bases and medium rings I see the barrel and the front sight. What is so cool about Warne bases and rings is that they are so true that the front blade of my rifle sight is right in line with the vertical cross hair. It is not a problem nor is it in my way and in fact it gives me the sense that I have open sights. I really like how mine is set up and works. Now on Three power I do not see barrel or sights.

........................................Well! I thought that there was the possibility you could very well see the barrel and the front site through the scope! Your barrel length is the same 20" that will be on my Howa .375 Ruger! The same would also happen to me using the V3 on the low power...........Even though it wouldn`t hamper things, my preference would be to have a clear view with no obstructions. So! I guess that eliminates not only the V3, but any variable with a 1x or maybe even a 1.5x on the low end! I don`t want high or extra high scope rings!.............I am considering the Leupold 2.5x FX2 Ultralite. Only 8" long, weighs 6.5oz., with 4.9" of eye relief. Although more expensive and not as wide as the V3`s FOV, the FX2 still has 40' @100 yards which is respectable and is still quick to the target! A 2.5x can still target elk sized and larger targets sufficiently out to 250-300 yards; maybe even further!....................However! All guided hunts for the big bears, moose, caped buffs, or any game one would use a .375 Ruger on, the shooting distances for the most part, would average under 200 yards anyway!!........

If you FX2 fails from recoil just remember I mentioned it. just kidding!

......................................................Well!....Very encouraging! I`ll remember that about the recoil. Haven`t ordered anything yet!