hey nosler, next caliber for rifle!!

Big Squeeze":3o4hk9ip said:
bullet":3o4hk9ip said:
Hey, Big Squeeze, if we go hunting together you won't mind if I call you and your 375 Ruger little brother will you??? :lol: :lol:
....................Well!......No doubt I am younger than you and more than likely better lookin too!!!!!!!!!!!...........In that regard `lil bro won`t be tooooo bad!!!............Your 300 gr. velocity shows 2783 fps. with your 375 Wby. I figure that my .375 Ruger with its 20" tube will produce between 2600 to 2650 fps. using 300 grainer reloads!!!..........Not too much of a `lil bro now is it????!!!!!.......

Yeah, 400-500ft pounds of difference is like the difference between a 44spl. and a 44mag which one would you prefer. :wink: Just teasing 8)
 
bullet":39osgc4c said:
Big Squeeze":39osgc4c said:
bullet":39osgc4c said:
Hey, Big Squeeze, if we go hunting together you won't mind if I call you and your 375 Ruger little brother will you??? :lol: :lol:
....................Well!......No doubt I am younger than you and more than likely better lookin too!!!!!!!!!!!...........In that regard `lil bro won`t be tooooo bad!!!............Your 300 gr. velocity shows 2783 fps. with your 375 Wby. I figure that my .375 Ruger with its 20" tube will produce between 2600 to 2650 fps. using 300 grainer reloads!!!..........Not too much of a `lil bro now is it????!!!!!.......

Yeah, 400-500ft pounds of difference is like the difference between a 44spl. and a 44mag which one would you prefer. :wink: Just teasing 8)
.....................That`s ok!!! Given the same range, the animal whether a bison, moose, caped buff, or big bear, won`t know the difference anyway...........Besides! I can pump 2 rounds for 600 grains, while you`re still aiming to shoot your second one! You have the edge in velocity, but you won`t in the speed dept!!! Trust me BIG BRO on that one!!!!......Why? Your Zeiss is not a speedy aiming scope, your rifle weighs more, is longer and not as manuverable!!!!!............. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
 
Big Squeeze":3vaccfee said:
bullet":3vaccfee said:
Big Squeeze":3vaccfee said:
bullet":3vaccfee said:
Hey, Big Squeeze, if we go hunting together you won't mind if I call you and your 375 Ruger little brother will you??? :lol: :lol:
....................Well!......No doubt I am younger than you and more than likely better lookin too!!!!!!!!!!!...........In that regard `lil bro won`t be tooooo bad!!!............Your 300 gr. velocity shows 2783 fps. with your 375 Wby. I figure that my .375 Ruger with its 20" tube will produce between 2600 to 2650 fps. using 300 grainer reloads!!!..........Not too much of a `lil bro now is it????!!!!!.......

Yeah, 400-500ft pounds of difference is like the difference between a 44spl. and a 44mag which one would you prefer. :wink: Just teasing 8)
.....................That`s ok!!! Given the same range, the animal whether a bison, moose, caped buff, or big bear, won`t know the difference anyway...........Besides! I can pump 2 rounds for 600 grains, while you`re still aiming to shoot your second one! You have the edge in velocity, but you won`t in the speed dept!!! Trust me BIG BRO on that one!!!!......Why? Your Zeiss is not a speedy aiming scope, your rifle weighs more, is longer and not as manuverable!!!!!............. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

My rifle weighs less than yours because with scope, bases and rings, mine only weighs 8.6 pounds so I can get it to the shoulder faster, it has only a 54 degree bolt so I can work my action faster, it has a muzzle brake so less recoil and I am back on target faster, and my Zeiss MC 3-9 has 4" of eye relief and now throw me in the mix and I think I could put 4 rounds on target standing free hand faster than you especially since the rifle was balanced and cut to my fit. :lol: :wink:
 
bullet":3ra5xi0w said:
Big Squeeze":3ra5xi0w said:
bullet":3ra5xi0w said:
Big Squeeze":3ra5xi0w said:
bullet":3ra5xi0w said:
Hey, Big Squeeze, if we go hunting together you won't mind if I call you and your 375 Ruger little brother will you??? :lol: :lol:
....................Well!......No doubt I am younger than you and more than likely better lookin too!!!!!!!!!!!...........In that regard `lil bro won`t be tooooo bad!!!............Your 300 gr. velocity shows 2783 fps. with your 375 Wby. I figure that my .375 Ruger with its 20" tube will produce between 2600 to 2650 fps. using 300 grainer reloads!!!..........Not too much of a `lil bro now is it????!!!!!.......

Yeah, 400-500ft pounds of difference is like the difference between a 44spl. and a 44mag which one would you prefer. :wink: Just teasing 8)
.....................That`s ok!!! Given the same range, the animal whether a bison, moose, caped buff, or big bear, won`t know the difference anyway...........Besides! I can pump 2 rounds for 600 grains, while you`re still aiming to shoot your second one! You have the edge in velocity, but you won`t in the speed dept!!! Trust me BIG BRO on that one!!!!......Why? Your Zeiss is not a speedy aiming scope, your rifle weighs more, is longer and not as manuverable!!!!!............. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

My rifle weighs less than yours because with scope, bases and rings, mine only weighs 8.6 pounds so I can get it to the shoulder faster, it has only a 54 degree bolt so I can work my action faster, it has a muzzle brake so less recoil and I am back on target faster, and my Zeiss MC 3-9 has 4" of eye relief and now throw me in the mix and I think I could put 4 rounds on target standing free hand faster than you especially since the rifle was balanced and cut to my fit. :lol: :wink:
........................WANNA BET?????? Your 54 degree bolt lift vs. my 90 won`t matter to me! Your 4" of eye relief has nothing to do with faster acquisition. With 3", 4" or even 6" of eye relief, you cannot aim that Zeiss set on the lowest power and keep both your eyes open. You must squint your non aiming eye, which reduces your FOV and increases the time for you to acquire your target, which in turn, increases the signal time to reach the brain and react. The only 3x9 or higher variable scope you can do that with that I know of, keeping both eyes open, is a Trijicon!.........I have practiced and practiced and practiced with my 300`s scout scope! Both eyes open aiming is second nature to me. That would also include practicing with the conventionally mounted 1.5-5x20 VX3 sitting on my Alaskan now, which enables very quick, both eyes open acquiring and aiming. BTW, the Howa M1500 will weigh 2/3rds lb. less; best guess @ 8 lbs. 2oz. w/scope........................Your muzzle brake will reduce your felt recoil, but because of other God given attributes plus some techniques, I can virtually recycle the bolt during the recoil/recovery on that 375 and in a very short period of time (of which I`m not telling; stop watch timed) after firing, in which I can re-acquire my target and fire again hitting the target. I am impervious to 375 recoil, especially standing up..............Along with perfecting speedy techniques and with plenty of practice, a faster scope will always make up for any muzzle brake, any reduced bolt lift, a proper fit or all three if used at the same time!...... Now! If you put a scope like that Weaver V3 on there, then we may have very similiar speed and times!!! However with that Zeiss? Good luck there "big bro! You would need it!........ :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
 
You know Big Squeeze it does not take much to get you going. But I respectfully disagree with 90 % of what you say. You da man!!! :lol:
 
bullet":2lsh6dya said:
You know Big Squeeze it does not take much to get you going. But I respectfully disagree with 90 % of what you say. You da man!!! :lol:
.....................Good! LOL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: ........Because I know that when you disagree with me, chances are I`m more right on and I know that I`m just gettin to ya!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: ...........What? No other feedback, other than a 90% disagreement?? Your best shot???........ Gets me going??? Naaa, not really! I just take what you state, break it down, then pick it apart with some good `ol common sense reasoning due to my own extended practical experience with both types of scopes........You may not want to think so, but see for yourself! Take your V3 or similiar scope, set it on 1x or 1.5x and put on your 375 and I`ll guarantee you that with practice, your speed in aiming and acquiring the target between shots will increase while your amount of time to do so will decrease!!! :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: .........................Hey! But what do I know! :shock: :shock: :shock:
 
You guys really need to meet somewhere - with a stopwatch/timer and an observer... And get this done! :grin:
 
Guy Miner":71u2e47c said:
You guys really need to meet somewhere - with a stopwatch/timer and an observer... And get this done! :grin:

No Guy, it becomes time to just let it go and that is what I have done. :grin:
 
bullet":8eds87uj said:
Guy Miner":8eds87uj said:
You guys really need to meet somewhere - with a stopwatch/timer and an observer... And get this done! :grin:

No Guy, it becomes time to just let it go and that is what I have done. :grin:
....................There is a problem with geographics! I`m in So. Calif. and "Bullet" is in Mississippi. But! It is fun to stir some ****, debate and agree to disagree!!!!!! Makes for some interesting fun and some lively on-line chat!..........Although a good shooting match would be quite interesting to say the very least!!! I would absolutely like that!! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
 
Big Squeeze":2tjqdwgv said:
bullet":2tjqdwgv said:
Guy Miner":2tjqdwgv said:
You guys really need to meet somewhere - with a stopwatch/timer and an observer... And get this done! :grin:

No Guy, it becomes time to just let it go and that is what I have done. :grin:
....................There is a problem with geographics! I`m in So. Calif. and "Bullet" is in Mississippi. But! It is fun to stir some ****, debate and agree to disagree!!!!!! Makes for some interesting fun and some lively on-line chat!..........Although a good shooting match would be quite interesting to say the very least!!! I would absolutely like that!! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

You know that would be cool. Standing free hand shooting 3 quart plastic oil containers filled with colored water at 100yds and who ever hits the most the fastest is the winner. You do know that this coming Oct or Oct of 09 I will be in Arizona? Now that is an idea. We could have some fun and fellowship. :idea:
 
HunterJim":2e6ogh78 said:
I have been thinking where Nosler should go with their next caliber choice, and I think they should consider the .375 Ruger.

You can use it in North America and Africa, and it fits in standard length actions.

I life my Ruger African, but a higher scale rifle would be really good.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, Jim, for all the reasons you mention, in addition to the relative cost of brass .

There was some talk earlier about a .375 H&H after the .270. I like the idea of a relatively big bore in the series (and I have the .300WSM and the .280AI NCRs), and I'd MUCH rather have the Ruger than the H&H.

This is not a choice Nosler will likely join us on, though, since the .375 Ruger was developed jointly by Ruger and that OTHER bullet maker . :roll:
 
old #7":68hq53o2 said:
There is a 300wsm, 280AI and a 270 win. Since you guys have the North American big game covered how about something for the varmints.
Something to "leave them mistified" :grin:

I thought I was alone wanting something like that. The rifle I shoot most often is a .22 Hornet - I'm in groundhog country, and my Ruger and I don't miss much inside 150 yards.

What're you thinking? .257 Roberts? .25-06? .220 Swift? .204 Ruger even?

Seekers of the red mist, chime in!

(BTW, old #7, I read your NCR .280 AI account with great interest. I took delivery of mine just this evening.)
 
jgradyo":2nfsoweo said:
HunterJim":2nfsoweo said:
I have been thinking where Nosler should go with their next caliber choice, and I think they should consider the .375 Ruger.

You can use it in North America and Africa, and it fits in standard length actions.

I life my Ruger African, but a higher scale rifle would be really good.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, Jim, for all the reasons you mention, in addition to the relative cost of brass .

There was some talk earlier about a .375 H&H after the .270. I like the idea of a relatively big bore in the series (and I have the .300WSM and the .280AI NCRs), and I'd MUCH rather have the Ruger than the H&H.

This is not a choice Nosler will likely join us on, though, since the .375 Ruger was developed jointly by Ruger and that OTHER bullet maker . :roll:
............You never know though! Legacy Sports is now this year, going to chamber the Howa M1500 in the 375 Ruger. CZ is doing so as well......I may be wrong but from what I understand via the brass at Legacy, the 375 Ruger is not a patented proprietary cartridge, so anyone can offer it.........If that is the case, Nosler would be very wise to chamber a custom job in the Ruger round!
 
Big Squeeze":3ty1z1e6 said:
jgradyo":3ty1z1e6 said:
HunterJim":3ty1z1e6 said:
I have been thinking where Nosler should go with their next caliber choice, and I think they should consider the .375 Ruger. [snip]
This is not a choice Nosler will likely join us on, though, since the .375 Ruger was developed jointly by Ruger and that OTHER bullet maker. [snip]
............You never know though! [snip]
OK, then I guess we'll wait to hear from a Nosler about whether they'll consider it. 2? 3? 4? You listening?

I for one would be interested in following (if not participating in) the decision process as it happens, live and in technicolor, right here in the forum.

Here's one cool plan for series #4 and #5, just to rekindle the conversation:

#4: Varmint gun in any one of the beautiful, proven smallbore calibers I've heard mentioned here. Somewhere between the .204 Ruger and .257 Roberts (my personal choice). Heavy barrel? Leupold VX-L or VX-7 mounted looow.

#5: The Big Finish, in a Big Bore. Iron sights under a removable scope (I think Kyle Hopp planted this idea in my head after he heard it tossed around at Bend). A .375 Ruger would be stellar, but I have to admit I'm also intrigued by Nosler4's .416 Rigby idea. If we're gonna go big, well...

Buehler? Anyone?
 
jgradyo":2fqe8czh said:
Big Squeeze":2fqe8czh said:
jgradyo":2fqe8czh said:
HunterJim":2fqe8czh said:
I have been thinking where Nosler should go with their next caliber choice, and I think they should consider the .375 Ruger. [snip]
This is not a choice Nosler will likely join us on, though, since the .375 Ruger was developed jointly by Ruger and that OTHER bullet maker. [snip]
............You never know though! [snip]
OK, then I guess we'll wait to hear from a Nosler about whether they'll consider it. 2? 3? 4? You listening?

I for one would be interested in following (if not participating in) the decision process as it happens, live and in technicolor, right here in the forum.

Here's one cool plan for series #4 and #5, just to rekindle the conversation:

#4: Varmint gun in any one of the beautiful, proven smallbore calibers I've heard mentioned here. Somewhere between the .204 Ruger and .257 Roberts (my personal choice). Heavy barrel? Leupold VX-L or VX-7 mounted looow.

#5: The Big Finish, in a Big Bore. Iron sights under a removable scope (I think Kyle Hopp planted this idea in my head after he heard it tossed around at Bend). A .375 Ruger would be stellar, but I have to admit I'm also intrigued by Nosler4's .416 Rigby idea. If we're gonna go big, well...

Buehler? Anyone?
..............Yep! As far as the 375 Ruger is concerned, we shall see! If there are no patents or a proprietary cartridge, then why not go for the Ruger round and offer it??.....Yeah! I know! Maybe alot of bias for the `ol 375 H&H???
 
Big Squeeze":2qlsz7og said:
If there are no patents or a proprietary cartridge, then why not go for the Ruger round and offer it??.....Yeah! I know! Maybe alot of bias for the `ol 375 H&H???
I think it is less a matter of legality or bias as it might be one of pride. The .375 Ruger was a joint project of Ruger and Hornady. With so many other good options out there, it would be hard to imagine the Noslers chambering their flagship custom rifle for a cartridge whose history starts with their closest competitor. I couldn't fault that logic, either, if I'm putting myself in their boots.
 
jgradyo":2y9j0k2b said:
Big Squeeze":2y9j0k2b said:
If there are no patents or a proprietary cartridge, then why not go for the Ruger round and offer it??.....Yeah! I know! Maybe alot of bias for the `ol 375 H&H???
I think it is less a matter of legality or bias as it might be one of pride. The .375 Ruger was a joint project of Ruger and Hornady. With so many other good options out there, it would be hard to imagine the Noslers chambering their flagship custom rifle for a cartridge whose history starts with their closest competitor. I couldn't fault that logic, either, if I'm putting myself in their boots.

I can not imagine them doing it with the 375 Ruger even if it was not a cartridge that two competitors developed. I think the Nosler custom rifles are best served not using heavy magnum or over bore cartridges like the Rums and Weathterby's (I am not implying that the 375 Ruger is overbore). There are still so many classics that have done the job for years that Nosler could choose from and they need to be ones that have sold well over a long period of time.
 
Well-
I dont expect Noselr to listen to me....I mean Savage just built a commemorative 110 in if all things, 300 Savage. You'd think that maybe they'd go for the REAL classic in 250-3000 Savage??? But NOOOOO!!! :? :grin: CL
 
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