I hang my head in shame...
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tddeangelo
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Bah! I can't do that! Have an incomplete rifle laying around? I mean, there's the AR upper I keep swearing I'm going to put a BCG and charging handle in and slap onto a lower "some day", but a Winchester in that state? I don't know....that's kinda like not letting my kids have three meals a day....it's just not right!
DrMike
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Steady, Tom, steady! Stay true to the charge. Don't shoot the donor! Listen to the doctor.
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tddeangelo
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I won't have the donor till 7/14. Might get the 300H&H around then, too, if I'm lucky.
The 300's arrival should help me focus elsehwere. Plus, I want to get busy on reload work for the 300WSM and some possible tweaking on the 30-06 and 257 Roberts loads I have worked up. That should keep me outta trouble for the time being.
The 300's arrival should help me focus elsehwere. Plus, I want to get busy on reload work for the 300WSM and some possible tweaking on the 30-06 and 257 Roberts loads I have worked up. That should keep me outta trouble for the time being.
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Stay strong, Tom. You can always buy another rifle just to keep yourself occupied. :mrgreen: I don't want to enable you or anything, but... :roll:
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tddeangelo":30z3quje said:
Tom, had a rare day off and was trying to log on to our forum but I think Aleena gave me the wrong pass word or log on name, probably something she said over there that she doesn't want me to see .
I wanted to congratulate you, for the 30-06 donor, the 300 h/h and the muzzleloader, Quincey, and Bela
God has been good to you--Congratulations Tom
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tddeangelo
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Mike, I gotta be done with rifles for a bit now, lol. If I even do shoot the donor, it'll need to be with the "stock" iron sights. There are weaver bases on it. I have a Leupold 1.5-5 sitting around doing little or nothing, but it's about a 30 yr old scope. For it's day, it was quite good. Now, I find it difficult to really see what a rifle can do with that scope in play. Compared to my other optics, it just can't hang.
For a shooting session or two, thought, eh, what could it hurt?
Jerry, thank you for the congrats and well-wishes. Aleena has been MOSTLY behaved on the other forum. If you need the login credentials, you could PM me here and I'll let you know.
Scotty, that's the plan! Make it a great medium bore, something I do not yet have.
For a shooting session or two, thought, eh, what could it hurt?
Jerry, thank you for the congrats and well-wishes. Aleena has been MOSTLY behaved on the other forum. If you need the login credentials, you could PM me here and I'll let you know.
Scotty, that's the plan! Make it a great medium bore, something I do not yet have.
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Tom,
I think it would be a shame not to shoot it at least a few times in the stock configuration.
I mean, what if outperforms your currnet 06? I know that is a shot in the dark.... but you never know.
Plus on the dark, cold, winter days you will sit around always wondering, " Coulda, shoulda, Didn't" :grin:
I think it would be a shame not to shoot it at least a few times in the stock configuration.
I mean, what if outperforms your currnet 06? I know that is a shot in the dark.... but you never know.
Plus on the dark, cold, winter days you will sit around always wondering, " Coulda, shoulda, Didn't" :grin:
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tddeangelo
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Pat, sometimes it's scary how alike we think.
As for "what if it outperforms my current '06"....I've already pondered that. Put it this way, in that possible outcome, I'll be looking at 2 30-06 M70's that have CRF and shoot extremely well. So then it becomes a question of "which is going to be made into the Whelen?" One of them will be. Just a matter of WHICH it will be.
As for "what if it outperforms my current '06"....I've already pondered that. Put it this way, in that possible outcome, I'll be looking at 2 30-06 M70's that have CRF and shoot extremely well. So then it becomes a question of "which is going to be made into the Whelen?" One of them will be. Just a matter of WHICH it will be.
tddeangelo":3kgtlzff said:Pat, sometimes it's scary how alike we think.
As for "what if it outperforms my current '06"....I've already pondered that. Put it this way, in that possible outcome, I'll be looking at 2 30-06 M70's that have CRF and shoot extremely well. So then it becomes a question of "which is going to be made into the Whelen?" One of them will be. Just a matter of WHICH it will be.
That is a pretty good place to be in! I like where your heads at right now... I have a couple things going, but I would be chomping at the bit if I had an 06 based M70 in the safe right now to make a 35 Whelen. I have wanted one for a long time, but with my current one being such a good rifle, I can't get rid of it.. Maybe someday when my son grows up, he will want it, then I will have a better excuse to build one? Or heck, maybe Winchester will chamber a couple of them for me?
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tddeangelo
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I bet they offer it at some point, Scotty. With offerings (overpriced, mind you, but offerings none the less) of 264WM and 257 Bob in new rifles, I bet they just keep expanding.
I have some sentimental attachment to my current '06 as it stands, too, so I may never want to change that one, truthfully.
I have some sentimental attachment to my current '06 as it stands, too, so I may never want to change that one, truthfully.
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I have to take the high road on this rifle, donor or not donor, the rifle is still a Transition Model 70 in mostly original condition, (S/N 10X,XXX) meaning that I my mind; that you do not destroy what ever historical value is remaining in the rifle. Technically, once you have removed the barrel, the rifle is no longer original. Besides, it has been shot and shooting it a few more times will not change anything much. I would be very surprised if an un-messed-with Model 70 of that vintage would shoot 1/4 inch groups, especially in .30-06 but, of course you never know.
I have owned a fairly large variety of old Winchesters that I have never taken to the range for a variety of reasons. Mostly, I just was happy to have custodial care of them for awhile and did not want to add any additional beauty marks to what was there already. In this case that may not really matter because you have lots of .30-06 shooters already without shooting this one, until it ready for a trip to the gunsmith for a new barrel.
Just my take on this.
I have owned a fairly large variety of old Winchesters that I have never taken to the range for a variety of reasons. Mostly, I just was happy to have custodial care of them for awhile and did not want to add any additional beauty marks to what was there already. In this case that may not really matter because you have lots of .30-06 shooters already without shooting this one, until it ready for a trip to the gunsmith for a new barrel.
Just my take on this.
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tddeangelo
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Charlie,
It's in the 111xxx S/N range. I'll snap some pics of it when I get it home. Very cool rifles, the M70's, and this one is no exception. If not for the holes in the receiver, it'd be an $800-$1000 gun, I bet.
It's in the 111xxx S/N range. I'll snap some pics of it when I get it home. Very cool rifles, the M70's, and this one is no exception. If not for the holes in the receiver, it'd be an $800-$1000 gun, I bet.
Oldtrader3
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Mine is 124XXX and is stamped 1949 on the bottom of the barrel. It sounds as though it is pretty original except for the two holes and the stock recoil reducer. Winchester did make and sell some earlier Model 70's with the recoil reducer. Are you sure that this is not a factory installation? I ask because the factory jobs are pretty scarce and valuable.
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tddeangelo
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It is not a rubber pad of the type I've seen on older Winchesters. It's a black, 1" thick, spongy pad that feels for all the world identical to the Decelerator found on my M70 Classic DBM and on my M70 Extreme Weather. I also believe, but will need to see the rifle again, that the outer contours of the pad did not precisely match the stock shape, but it was fairly close. I did not get the impression that it was at all an original pad.
Oldtrader3
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I thought maybe it hade the Decelerator stock device on it? Guess not, it sounds that it is just the pad instead. Hard to know what people are describing sometimes without pictures. I would like to see some pictures when you have the chance though, thanks.
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tddeangelo
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Hang tight! Pics will be posted.
Gunshow is July 14. I will be (hopefully) getting the rifle at that time.
Gunshow is July 14. I will be (hopefully) getting the rifle at that time.
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Tom, congratulations, that was a nice find whether you convert it or keep it as is
DrMike
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Unless you are a collector, Tom, use the rifle without worrying about "destroying" the value. Of course, anytime we alter factory work, we "destroy" the value of a a rifle. However, the worth of that rifle is determined by whether it is useful for our purpose and whether it pleases us. I'll yank you around, teasing about what you do with your rifle, but in the final analysis, you make the call and all of us will enjoy seeing what you do. I am looking forward to seeing what you acquired. It does sound as if there have been some alterations already.
