Load data for 123 Nosler CC

[257 Ackley]

Got a bunch of the 123 grain CC Noslers in 6.5 that I want to try in the 6.5X47L. Can someone give me QL data and any info they may have from personal use? Thanks
Cheers

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge : 6.5 x 47 Lapua
Bullet : .264, 123, Nosler CC HPBT 53415
Useable Case Capaci: 44.721 grain H2O = 2.904 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 55204 psi, or 380 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 97.7 42.3 2.74 2946 100.0 55205 9722 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 97.7 42.3 2.74 2946 100.0 55205 9722 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 105.0 43.1 2.79 2924 100.0 54907 9288 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 99.1 43.5 2.82 2901 98.3 55205 9800 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 102.4 43.6 2.83 2900 98.3 55205 9786 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 96.6 42.1 2.73 2890 97.5 55205 9730 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 96.6 42.1 2.73 2890 97.5 55205 9730 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 101.5 41.9 2.71 2886 99.4 55205 9492 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 101.9 41.5 2.69 2886 99.4 55205 9477 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 101.9 41.6 2.69 2886 99.4 55205 9474 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 98.8 41.6 2.70 2884 99.3 55205 9575 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 104.4 43.0 2.79 2859 95.3 55205 9566 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 101.1 43.0 2.79 2859 95.3 55205 9566 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 104.4 43.0 2.79 2859 95.3 55205 9566 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 104.8 41.8 2.71 2858 100.0 55205 8788 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 105.0 43.1 2.79 2851 95.0 53671 9678 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 102.0 42.7 2.77 2845 97.1 55205 9347 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 105.0 45.2 2.93 2843 95.6 47989 10389 1.235
Bofors RP3 94.2 39.3 2.54 2840 100.0 55205 8827 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 94.2 39.3 2.54 2840 100.0 55205 8827 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 43.3 2.80 2834 94.9 52174 9700 1.198
Rottweil R903 96.3 39.3 2.55 2833 100.0 55205 8757 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 93.5 39.4 2.55 2833 99.1 55205 9064 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 100.9 41.1 2.67 2828 97.6 55205 9201 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 45.6 2.96 2827 95.2 54747 9313 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 96.1 38.8 2.51 2825 100.0 55205 8738 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 104.9 42.6 2.76 2820 94.1 55205 9224 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 105.0 41.5 2.69 2817 99.1 51831 9182 1.221
Lovex S065 99.5 40.1 2.60 2808 98.5 55205 8908 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 93.8 37.8 2.45 2807 100.0 55205 8246 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 43.3 2.80 2806 94.5 50968 9555 1.211
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 44.5 2.88 2799 91.6 49157 9899 1.222
Rottweil R907 98.1 39.7 2.57 2799 96.8 55205 8950 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 98.1 39.7 2.57 2799 96.8 55205 8950 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 95.0 39.7 2.57 2798 96.8 55205 8944 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 105.0 43.8 2.84 2792 95.9 51164 9342 1.228
Somchem S361 103.7 45.6 2.95 2784 92.9 55205 8986 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 44.2 2.87 2771 90.4 46136 10043 1.260

Cartridge : 6.5 x 47 Lapua
Bullet : .264, 123, Nosler CC HPBT 53415
Useable Case Capaci: 44.721 grain H2O = 2.904 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 81 34.96 2443 1629 31456 8370 95.3 1.489
-18.0 83 35.83 2504 1712 33622 8599 96.4 1.450
-16.0 85 36.71 2565 1797 35945 8813 97.3 1.412
-14.0 87 37.58 2626 1883 38433 9010 98.1 1.370
-12.0 89 38.46 2687 1971 41101 9188 98.7 1.327
-10.0 91 39.33 2747 2061 43962 9346 99.2 1.286
-08.0 93 40.20 2807 2152 47041 9484 99.6 1.247
-06.0 95 41.08 2867 2244 50348 9601 99.9 1.209
-04.0 97 41.95 2926 2338 53908 9695 100.0 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 99 42.83 2984 2432 57745 9771 100.0 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 101 43.70 3042 2527 61885 9842 100.0 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 103 44.57 3099 2623 66356 9910 100.0 1.071 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 105 45.45 3156 2720 71194 9974 100.0 1.039 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 107 46.32 3213 2819 76438 10035 100.0 1.009 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 109 47.20 3269 2918 82131 10092 100.0 0.980 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 111 48.07 3325 3019 88321 10144 100.0 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 101 43.70 3155 2719 75699 9428 100.0 1.024 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 101 43.70 2867 2245 49978 10154 98.1 1.209

 

[HomerOz]

G'Day Fella's,

.257 Ackley, a good mate of mine swears by the following load;

123grn, 6.5mm Lapua Scenar Moly coated bullet,
39.0 to 39.5grns of Reloader 15 powder,
CCI Small rifle Magnum Primer,
and 3050fps.
I can't remember the barrel length of his rifle but it would be at least 26"!

Hope that helps

Doh!
Homer

 

[257 Ackley]

Thank you Mike and Homer!
Cheers

 

[257 Ackley]

Looks like R15 and 17 will have to be tried. R15 doesn't show up on the QL data, but I have some comparison data from work done with the 123 Scenar to get me beginning loads. Is there data on this bullet in the new Nosler manual? It doesn't show up in #6.
Cheers

 

[DrMike]

The Scenar and the CC certainly show some differences in QL. Propellant profiles generated are similar for either bullet. RL15 will work, but doesn't appear to be the most efficient nor make me want to jump it above any of a number of others.

Cartridge : 6.5 x 47 Lapua
Bullet : .264, 123, Nosler CC HPBT 53415
Useable Case Capaci: 44.716 grain H2O = 2.903 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-15

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 77 31.60 2412 1589 33830 7677 95.2 1.486
-18.0 79 32.39 2467 1662 35989 7876 96.1 1.449
-16.0 81 33.18 2522 1737 38275 8067 96.9 1.411
-14.0 82 33.97 2576 1812 40695 8248 97.5 1.371
-12.0 84 34.76 2630 1889 43257 8418 98.2 1.332
-10.0 86 35.55 2683 1967 45969 8576 98.7 1.295
-08.0 88 36.34 2737 2045 48841 8724 99.1 1.259
-06.0 90 37.13 2789 2125 51883 8858 99.4 1.225
-04.0 92 37.92 2842 2205 55106 8980 99.7 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 94 38.71 2893 2286 58523 9088 99.9 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 39.50 2945 2368 62145 9183 100.0 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 98 40.29 2996 2451 65989 9264 100.0 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 100 41.08 3046 2534 70070 9341 100.0 1.072 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 102 41.87 3096 2617 74405 9415 100.0 1.044 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 104 42.66 3145 2701 79015 9486 100.0 1.018 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 105 43.45 3194 2786 83921 9555 100.0 0.992 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 39.50 3043 2529 73152 8828 100.0 1.056 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 39.50 2799 2139 51261 9311 97.3 1.227

Cartridge : 6.5 x 47 Lapua
Bullet : .264, 123, Lapua Scenar GB489 6032 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 43.674 grain H2O = 2.836 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-15

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 77 31.04 2397 1569 33521 7493 94.9 1.493
-18.0 79 31.82 2452 1642 35666 7690 95.8 1.456
-16.0 81 32.59 2506 1716 37939 7878 96.6 1.419
-14.0 83 33.37 2560 1791 40346 8057 97.3 1.378
-12.0 85 34.14 2614 1867 42895 8226 97.9 1.339
-10.0 87 34.92 2668 1944 45596 8384 98.5 1.301
-08.0 89 35.70 2721 2022 48458 8530 98.9 1.265
-06.0 91 36.47 2774 2101 51491 8665 99.3 1.231
-04.0 93 37.25 2826 2181 54706 8787 99.6 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 94 38.02 2878 2262 58116 8896 99.8 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 38.80 2929 2343 61734 8991 100.0 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 98 39.58 2980 2426 65576 9073 100.0 1.105 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 100 40.35 3031 2508 69657 9146 100.0 1.077 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 102 41.13 3080 2592 73997 9217 100.0 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 104 41.90 3130 2676 78614 9285 100.0 1.023 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 106 42.68 3179 2760 83532 9351 100.0 0.997 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 38.80 3029 2505 72769 8638 100.0 1.061 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 38.80 2782 2114 50848 9095 97.1 1.234

Cartridge : 6.5 x 47 Lapua
Bullet : .264, 123, Lapua Scenar GB489 6032 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 43.674 grain H2O = 2.836 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 55204 psi, or 380 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 98.5 41.6 2.70 2937 100.0 55205 9539 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 98.5 41.6 2.70 2937 100.0 55205 9539 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 100.0 42.9 2.78 2891 98.1 55205 9596 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 105.0 42.0 2.72 2891 100.0 53235 9086 1.188
Ramshot Hunter 103.2 42.9 2.78 2890 98.1 55205 9581 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 97.4 41.5 2.69 2880 97.3 55205 9524 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 97.4 41.5 2.69 2880 97.3 55205 9524 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 102.4 41.2 2.67 2878 99.3 55205 9301 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 102.7 40.9 2.65 2877 99.3 55205 9286 1.179 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 102.8 40.9 2.65 2877 99.3 55205 9284 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 99.7 41.0 2.66 2875 99.2 55205 9383 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 101.9 42.4 2.75 2847 95.1 55205 9350 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 105.0 42.3 2.74 2841 95.0 54829 9331 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 42.3 2.74 2841 95.0 54829 9331 1.176 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 102.8 42.0 2.72 2834 96.9 55205 9144 1.185 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 40.9 2.65 2832 99.9 54039 8594 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 95.0 38.7 2.51 2831 100.0 55205 8659 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 95.0 38.7 2.51 2831 100.0 55205 8659 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 97.1 38.7 2.51 2825 100.0 55205 8587 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 94.3 38.8 2.51 2823 99.0 55205 8877 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 101.7 40.5 2.62 2818 97.4 55205 9003 1.198 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 96.9 38.2 2.47 2816 99.9 55205 8568 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 105.0 42.0 2.72 2815 94.4 52335 9385 1.194
Norma MRP 105.0 44.1 2.86 2804 94.9 46611 10077 1.253
Accurate 4064 94.6 37.3 2.41 2800 100.0 55205 8087 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 42.3 2.74 2799 94.3 50834 9407 1.214
Lovex S065 100.2 39.5 2.56 2797 98.4 55205 8719 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 44.6 2.89 2791 94.6 53238 9033 1.194
Rottweil R904 105.0 41.7 2.70 2788 93.5 53953 8948 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 98.8 39.1 2.53 2787 96.6 55205 8751 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 98.8 39.1 2.53 2787 96.6 55205 8751 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 95.7 39.1 2.53 2786 96.6 55205 8745 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 105.0 40.5 2.62 2784 98.8 50366 8943 1.238
Somchem S361 104.5 44.8 2.90 2772 92.6 55205 8775 1.192 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 42.3 2.74 2771 93.9 49663 9264 1.228

 

[257 Ackley]

I am really surprised how well H414 and 760 show with this cartride/bullet combo. I had one ragged hole with H414 and the 139 Scenar during testing.

 

[DrMike]

I am really surprised how well H414 and 760 show with this cartride/bullet combo. I had one ragged hole with H414 and the 139 Scenar during testing.

Oh, yeah, they seem to give good performance. If you're getting that degree of accuracy, the choice is practically made for you.

 

[Polaris]

Just FYI. Different calibers, barrel length and probably rate of twist.

I experienced bullet rupture with the 123 A-max in an M96 6.5X55 under hot barrel conditions during the rapid fire stage of a high power match. Follow up testing with the 123 cc under similar conditions revealed some of the same signs (smoke trailing and lead residue at impact) at 100 yards after a 15 round string.

Load was on the mild side. Tested very accurate and got no trouble signs at 100 yds. Problem occurred after heavy barrel heating in 90+ weather. You might be fine with your twist rate and a fine match barrel vs Swedish military, just a heads up to test for this possibility. Hate to see you drop some match points the way I did.

 

[SJB358]

Seems like Rl15 is a good one Joel. Are you going to try it out?