pics of scary reloading accident

[cloverleaf]

Link to some scary pics and a reloading nightmare. Not to pirate from another page but a good reminder about being careful. CL



http://www.marlinowners.com/board/viewt ... highlight=

 

[FOTIS]

Yup...he used 48grs of AA#7!! instead of Reloder7....major snafu

Life is tough. It is even tougher if you're stupid....John Wayne

 

[FOTIS]

For your info!!!!

Cartridge : .45-70 Govt. SAAMI
Bullet : .458, 350, HDY FP 4503
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch or 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Accurate No.7

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 66 37.60 2108 3452 62546 2346 100.0 1.330 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-18.0 67 38.54 2138 3552 66054 2388 100.0 1.304 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-16.0 69 39.48 2168 3652 69709 2429 100.0 1.279 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-14.0 70 40.42 2198 3753 73519 2470 100.0 1.255 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-12.0 72 41.36 2227 3854 77492 2510 100.0 1.232 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-10.0 74 42.30 2256 3956 81634 2549 100.0 1.210 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-08.0 75 43.24 2285 4058 85954 2588 100.0 1.189 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-06.0 77 44.18 2314 4160 90462 2626 100.0 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-04.0 79 45.12 2342 4263 95168 2663 100.0 1.150 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-02.0 80 46.06 2370 4367 100082 2700 100.0 1.131 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0 82 47.00 2398 4471 105215 2736 100.0 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 84 47.94 2426 4575 110581 2771 100.0 1.095 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 85 48.88 2454 4680 116193 2806 100.0 1.078 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 87 49.82 2482 4786 122066 2840 100.0 1.062 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 89 50.76 2509 4892 128216 2873 100.0 1.046 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 90 51.70 2536 4999 134659 2905 100.0 1.030 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 82 47.00 2410 4515 115369 2706 100.0 1.094 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 82 47.00 2382 4409 94049 2778 100.0 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

That's why you should only have one powder of a given number in the house at a time. I was always worried I could mix up IMR 4831 and H4831. That looks like a Bomb when off..... :shock:

 

[JD338]

One can never be too careful.

JD338

 

[Guy Miner]

Good safety reminder Cloverleaf! Thanks.

I'm reminded of something I heard a buddy say a few years ago:

"Learn to read you brain-dead moron."

Somehow, mixing up Reloader 7 and AA #7 seems to fit into the "learn to read" category. Yes, they both have 7's in their name. Too bad, and a nice Marlin lever gun has it's life cut short. So many deer left to slay - but alas, not for this Marlin... :wink:

Doggone glad the guy is alive and kicking. One of my greatest worries as a reloader is getting the wrong powder charge... Everything else is pretty much foolproof.

Regards, Guy

 

[Britz]

One guy I know likes to have a couple beers while he is loading -- NOT ME!

man, seeing that picture makes me shiver.

 

[dcopp75]

The strange thing is that the containers for AA #7 and R7 are completely different. AA#7 even has a picture of a hand gun on the bottle and is a spherical powder. I have not used R7, but am sure that the powder granules are different.

That is a big mess up. I hate to see this kind of stuff because is just fuels the anti-gun groups on how unsave guns and their users are. :x

 

[FOTIS]

Airhead man! nuff said!

 

[JungleJim]

Years ago a range officer told me about a guy that loaded up a 300 Winchester Mag with 70 some grains of H110 instead of H4831 he died from the results of using the wrong powder. This came out in court when the Widow tried to sue the gun maker.

Back in the 90s I had a guy sit down a couple benches down to try out his newly rebarreled rifle in a 300 Mag. The 1st shot, it blew about 8" of the barrel off. He was unhurt. But was extremely PO at the barrel maker and was going to sue. He pack up and left. About 15 minutes after he left we went down range to change some targets. One of the guys picked up the 8" chunk of barrel about 60 yards down range. We were looking at it and it had the end of a cleaning rod and a patch still in it!!!!!!!

 

[cloverleaf]

There were some pics flloating around the net of a guy who "un-zipped" his barrel into four perfect strips, just like peeling a banana, when he forgot to remove his bore sighter. Wer use the pics for firearm safety training.

 

[FOTIS]

Point being you gotta have 100% of your thoughts in your work when dealing with this. No distractions at all!.

 

[2ndtimer]

Many years ago, (before I joined), a member of my gun club loaded up some rounds for metallic silhouette for his Remington XP-100 in 7mmBR. Instead of using Winchester 748 powder, he used Winchester 296. He survived, the XP did not. Interestingly enough, he contacted Remington and told them what had happened and they asked for the remains of the gun, and sent him a new one to replace it!
Reloading is not something to be taken lightly, and I believe he had been at it for over 20 years when this happened. I have always subscribed to the "one powder on the bench at a time" rule. So far, so good!

 

[Guest]

Maybe I'm just overly obsessive compulsive, but I find myself double checking everything, down to the point of using a fiber optic light to verify that cases are primed with the primer I believe them to be (I use Federal, and all my regular 210's are red in color, while my 215's are purple in color). I double check powder, beam scale settings, correct dies in the press, and just about anything else I that could be changed or knocked out of whack. I don't open more than one bottle of powder at a time, and I really don't like to have more than one down off the powder shelf at a time. I write up notes regarding what I'm loading, and re-check them prior to charging cases. It seems to me that some folks are entirely too 'un-careful' about how they load. Of course, some of those folks are also that way with firearms in general, which adds to the danger factor. It makes a fellow very careful when at a public range.

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Dubyam +++
Except I don't have a fiber optic bore scope.
Only one powder of a given number in the house at a time.
Only one powder off the shelf at a time.
From the time I pour powder, the the time the last bullet is in, no interuptions are allowed. Don't call me unless the house is burning down.
Any question about what a powder is, take it outside and burn it.
In addition, I prefer slow powders that use 90%+ of the case capacity. That way I am accidently over by much, the power will overflow the case and I'll realize my mistake.
I'm sure we all have our rules that keep us safe. There are the big one that have helped me.

 

[Guest]

Actually, I don't have a fiber optic bore scope, either. I use a little fiber optic doohickey that fits over the top of my mini-maglite and has about 10" of flexible fiber optic to direct the light where I want it. I use it for inspecting the inside of cases, as well as chambers, throats, and muzzles of my rifles (and any I am looking at buying). You can get these things at WalMart for a few dollars, and you only need to have a mini-maglite in order to use it. I can post a picture if you need a search image.