Quickload data for 338/06 and 250 Scenar?

[preacher]

Looking for data in a 24" barrel, Lapua cases, 3.33" COAL. at 64K please. Some have used this as a close range load in this round as a thumper. I like the fact they come 100 to a box and are made to be accurate. If I never killed anything with them, at least I'd have fun shooting rocks in the desert!

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .338-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .338, 250, Lapua Scenar GB488 8017  G7
Useable Case Capaci: 53.455 grain H2O = 3.471 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T               108.2     55.9     3.62    2612   100.0    64000    7831   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                           107.3     55.5     3.59    2597   100.0    64000    7793   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T              107.3     55.5     3.59    2597   100.0    64000    7793   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C               110.0     57.7     3.74    2576    99.4    62537    8175   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                108.8     57.1     3.70    2562    98.9    64000    7954   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       106.2     55.4     3.59    2553    98.3    64000    7890   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     106.2     55.4     3.59    2553    98.3    64000    7890   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T               108.8     54.8     3.55    2550    99.7    64000    7765   1.212  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  110.0     56.8     3.68    2539    99.5    60415    7816   1.229  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                        109.1     53.7     3.48    2538    99.5    64000    7591   1.206  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T               110.0     52.8     3.42    2519    99.7    59160    7679   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           110.0     52.8     3.42    2519    99.7    59160    7679   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      110.0     54.2     3.51    2513    99.6    60744    7567   1.244  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       110.0     56.0     3.63    2504    96.1    63045    7736   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     110.0     56.0     3.63    2504    98.4    59204    7831   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                         103.8     51.7     3.35    2504   100.0    64000    7071   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      103.8     51.7     3.35    2504   100.0    64000    7071   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                 108.5     54.6     3.54    2504    99.7    64000    7191   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       110.0     53.6     3.47    2502    99.5    59754    7575   1.241  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         110.0     53.6     3.47    2501    99.5    59694    7572   1.241  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       102.9     51.8     3.36    2497    99.6    64000    7318   1.228  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                      106.2     51.8     3.35    2497   100.0    64000    6997   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                       106.0     51.1     3.31    2490   100.0    64000    7015   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                110.0     56.0     3.63    2486    97.9    57648    7832   1.253  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         110.0     53.6     3.47    2475    98.2    62328    7419   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              110.0     53.6     3.47    2475    98.2    62328    7419   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      103.9     50.1     3.25    2474   100.0    64000    6596   1.255  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         109.3     52.7     3.42    2474    99.1    64000    7208   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle          109.3     52.7     3.42    2474    99.1    64000    7208   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle          98.6     50.0     3.24    2472   100.0    64000    6592   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       96.3     50.0     3.24    2472   100.0    64000    6592   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        98.6     50.0     3.24    2472   100.0    64000    6592   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation    110.0     55.0     3.57    2467    97.5    60476    7488   1.244  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                    97.0     51.3     3.32    2467    99.5    64000    7026   1.234  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                         107.6     52.0     3.37    2462    97.6    64000    7254   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                      107.6     52.0     3.37    2462    97.6    64000    7254   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       104.2     52.1     3.37    2462    97.6    64000    7248   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       97.8     47.1     3.05    2448   100.0    64000    6318   1.264  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       92.0     48.8     3.16    2439   100.0    64000    6420   1.249  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        92.3     48.8     3.16    2439   100.0    64000    6420   1.249  ! Near Maximum !

 

[preacher]

Gosh! 2600 with R17 (of course, IF the rifle/brass like it) but I was surprised to see so many powders give a sold 2500fps! After I get my present bullets set up, I'l have to try some. Makes more sense than the 282 Hammer, and the old 250 GS. Thank you Doc! I appreciate the you taking the time to post that for me. I've been saving my little stash of R17 for my 7x57 ( yes, it is "almost done" the smith tells me...one year later!) But I have gotten great results in R16 and Hunter. I empirically cold tested Hunter in a 300WSM/168 load. I had worked it up in around 50-60 degrees and when it got around 25 that winter I clocked it again...zero loss! That surprised me! Thanks again Good Dr., you are a Scholar and a Gentleman!

 

[SJB358]

I am looking forward to giving them a whirl. just got the box from Midway.

 

[JD338]

I am looking forward to giving them a whirl. just got the box from Midway.

Maybe you can run one into some water jugs for us.

JD338

 

[preacher]

What does QL show for 64K, With the old Sierra 250 SBT? It would be interesting to see how they compare.

 

[SJB358]

Maybe you can run one into some water jugs for us.

JD338

I sure will. I mocked up a few for my 338 Win. Once I get a decent load I’ll try one or two out. I’m pretty interested myself.

 

[preacher]

What does QL show for 64K, With the old Sierra 250 SBT? It would be interesting to see how they compare.

Especially with H4350 in Lapua or Starline cases?

 

[Alaska]

Using the 338-06 in Alaska and Washington State hunting for several years. I have concluded the 210Gr Nosler Part along with the 225gr Hornady SP-RP the perfect bullets for the 338-06. Any bullet heavier and you have ballistic like a 220gr in 30-06 not good. Reloader 17 was especially good reaching 2700 fps with the 225gr Hornady SP-RP in the Weatherby UL and makes a dandy elk rifle.

 

[preacher]

Thanks Alaska, sound advice. My little rifle doesn't seem to care for the 210 NP (older style with relief groove in middle) I have heard that Hornady 225 SP in .338 win mag had accuracy issues, you ever hear this? It may have been a bad batch, but heck this was 40 years ago!

 

[JD338]

The 210 gr PT is a solid choice. Accurate and penetrates, it hits way above it's weight class.

JD338

 

[preacher]

It took me months to find, bid on and win the one box of 210 Partitions I just tried. I also didn't find a sweet spot with the few 200 NABs I had scrounged up, so I traded the remainders to a guy whose rifle does love them. Strange, as my rifle does well with the older 200 NBT (uncoated, pre Combined Technology days) and the Barnes 210 TTSX. The 175 Hammers just dialed in like they were made for my rifle, ha. So I'm just looking at finding useful loads for the 250's I have on hand ( Speer GS, Sierra SBT and some Hornady Spire Pts) So far, the 175 Hammer would most likely be first up on the next cow elk I draw down on. I still like to work up heavies on the other end, just in case the Circus Elephant gets loose or a Skinwalker shows up!!....

 

[SJB358]

Using the 338-06 in Alaska and Washington State hunting for several years. I have concluded the 210Gr Nosler Part along with the 225gr Hornady SP-RP the perfect bullets for the 338-06. Any bullet heavier and you have ballistic like a 220gr in 30-06 not good. Reloader 17 was especially good reaching 2700 fps with the 225gr Hornady SP-RP in the Weatherby UL and makes a dandy elk rifle.

That's great intel Alaska! Thank you.

I was planning to start with RL17 and 225's anyhow.

 

[Alaska]

That's great intel Alaska! Thank you.

I was planning to start with RL17 and 225's anyhow.

In 24” you can easily reach 2700 FPS with the 225 SP-RP Hornady with RL 17. Suggest WW or Norma brass to do so.

 

[SJB358]

In 24” you can easily reach 2700 FPS with the 225 SP-RP Hornady with RL 17. Suggest WW or Norma brass to do so.

I ended up using reformed Lapua brass but it made 2700 with no sweat using 225 ABs. Haven’t quite figured out the accuracy button yet but it’s coming around.

 

[JD338]

You are almost there. A little tweaking with the COL and you should be where you want to be.
That would make for a dandy elk load.

JD338

 

[preacher]

Watching you close Scotty! I plan on using these Speer 225s to fireform my 338/06 Ackley. I just have never hunted/used 225 in any medium, ha. "But if I do", I think I trust the Hornady 225 to be a bit tougher than these Speer BTs.

 

[Alaska]

The Hornady 225 SP-RP is an excellent bullet for 338-06 and Reloader 17 the perfect powder !