I had nine pieces of brass left in a batch that needed to be shot in order for me to resize all of the brass in that 7-08 box. So I decided to do a little velocity testing. I created three 3 shot groups with 3 different powders, R16, R17, H4350 with a 140 Nosler ballistic tip. I loaded each string at 1 grain below max. R16 gave me 2849 fps. H4350 was almost the same with 2851 fps. However R17 gave me an average of 2950 fps with 2 shots in one hole and the third was just a bit away from the other two giving me a 3 shot group of 0.895. This is my first try with R17 and I will definitely continue to experiment with it. I have some 140 gr Accubonds I plan to save for a possible 7-08 elk hunt. 2950 fps with a 140 gr AccuBond ought to kill the heck out of an elk. The 140 ballistic tip ought to kill the heck out of a deer.