Kodiak brown bear recommendation

[6mm Remington]

It's too bad that things didn't work out very well, but it still looks like you had some fun, saw some neat animals, and enjoyed the experience as much as you could. We all would like to see pictures if you took some!!

David

 

[SJB358]

That stinks, Ridgewalker. It does sound as if the outfitter wasn't fully prepared to fulfill his end of the contract. I'm glad you had the opportunity to go, but man, for that price I would have expected him to be better prepared.

Sorry about your hunt buddy. That sounds like the outfitter really slighted you for the amount of money you paid. It took my pop's two hunts to finally connect with his Brownie as well. He said it was the most physically demanding hunt he was ever on, but also the most rewarding.

 

[35 Whelen]

I hear this story more and more as the years go by............................. guides charging twenty thousand dollars to shoot a bear and the hunts they are now putting on are not up to standards
we considered standard years ago .
Anyone can have trouble with an outboard motor we all realize that, but to keep sending out clients paying twenty grand, for a chance at a bear, with that motor is not cool. [
Worst trouble with all this is that the same outfitter will do the same thing to others next season unless the Fish and Game is made aware of the low standards he is operating under?
I am a guide and have to face that everyday of the week. If we disapoint people it hurts you badly ......................... we like to run the best equipment we can and no one ever leaves here with out gaining weight. But I am very aware of these hunts with one slice of meat and wore out motors......................... sorry to hear you got smoked on this very expensive hunt. It now reflects on all of us in the industry................

 

[DrMike]

Earl,

I think everyone realizes that there are unscrupulous individuals presenting themselves as guide-outfitters. The tragedy is that they can stay in business so long because there is scant checking on references, or the references are rigged.

 

[SJB358]

I hear this story more and more as the years go by............................. guides charging twenty thousand dollars to shoot a bear and the hunts they are now putting on are not up to standards
we considered standard years ago .
Anyone can have trouble with an outboard motor we all realize that, but to keep sending out clients paying twenty grand, for a chance at a bear, with that motor is not cool. [
Worst trouble with all this is that the same outfitter will do the same thing to others next season unless the Fish and Game is made aware of the low standards he is operating under?
I am a guide and have to face that everyday of the week. If we disapoint people it hurts you badly ......................... we like to run the best equipment we can and no one ever leaves here with out gaining weight. But I am very aware of these hunts with one slice of meat and wore out motors......................... sorry to hear you got smoked on this very expensive hunt. It now reflects on all of us in the industry................

Great info Earle. I know there are outfitters like that, but with this darned interweb that Al Gore created at least we have a tool to really find the right outfit to spend our money with! :lol:

My buddy who is an outfitter in Idaho, says the one problem with the internet is hunters are not able to meet outfitters prior to booking hunts. It is all done via electrons. In the not so distant past hunting shows were the main outlet and allowed the hunter and outfitter to look eye to eye so expectations could be hashed out right there. Some folks who book high country elk hunts probably wouldn't do it if they were able to speak with an honest outfitter that can describe the kinda hunting being done daily. I know my buddy just about gave up outfitting with all of the clients showing up with 10+ lb rifles with enough optics to close the deal at 1000 yards, but they couldn't pick up an elk in the open at 100! Said TV ruined alot of hunters. I can see it, it gets the best of all of us. If TV was true, killing 6x6 bulls isn't much harder than checking your rifle at camp, having a big breakfast and riding the horses for a few miles, then picking from one of the 10 bulls meandering around in the open for an hour from the prone at 250 yards!

 

[DrMike]

If TV was true, killing 6x6 bulls isn't much harder than checking your rifle at camp, having a big breakfast and riding the horses for a few miles, then picking from one of the 10 bulls meandering around in the open for an hour from the prone at 250 yards!

Tell me it ain't true, Scotty! :shock: Tell me that you're joshing me.

 

[6mm Remington]

Food for thought! Man these things are huge!

30-INCH PLUS ALASKA BROWN BEAR
November 14, 2012
A recently accepted AK brown bear is the new #8 all-time with a skull measurement of 30-4/16 inches B&C.

Hunter, Thomas A. Stago from Enola, Pennsylvania used a .375 H&H pushing a 300 gr. Barnes to down this brownie near South Uyak Bay, Alaska on May 2, 2012.

Of the 863 brown bear entries meeting or exceeding the 26-inch minimum, only 22 score 30-inches and higher.

Roy Lindsley took the World's Record in 1952, scoring 30-12/16 from Kodiak Island. Stago's trophy is tied for the largest on record taken in the past 30 years.

 

[Guy Miner]

That's one heck of a bear!

Okay - I might relent and use something bigger than my .25-06 if I was hunting that bear! Wow... Awesome.

Ridge - sorry the hunt didn't work out real well.

Guy

 

[bullet]

Man Awesome Bear NOW FOLKS THAT IS A HUGE BEAR.

HERE ARE MY RULES WHEN HUNTING DANGEROUS GAME :mrgreen:



RULES TO STAY ALIVE WHEN HUNTING DANGEROUS GAME

By: Mike Price
(hog, African lion, bear, moose, buffalo, any animal that can or does present an attitude)


1. Take a good controlled fed rifle (or premium push feed, preferably control feed) to do the job you are asking it to perform.

2. It must be a rifle that you know and are familiar with, because you have spent a lot of time holding it in your hands working the action and safeties so as to learn it’s peculiarities!

3. Shoot it from different positions and at varying ranges until you are proficient at all positions and ranges you will possibly shoot!

4. There is no such thing as the all around or magic cartridge, just some good ones that do the job very well, if you do yours!

5. Only center hits in the vital kill area counts, or a dangerous animal might teach you the difference!

6. Make sure your choice of cartridge and bullet can make the deepest hole possible to insure that vital organs, nerve centers, blood arteries and pivotal skeletal structure can be reached and destroyed from all impact angles!

7. Reaching vitals at all angles won't happen if the bullet does not hold up and fragments or sheds it’s jacket or bends, so don't buy cheap factory ammunition or cheap bullets if you hand-load!

8. Do not shoot a cartridge that you are not able to handle because of excessive recoil and that will negatively affect your accuracy and that you are not comfortable with (this might mean you do not need to hunt dangerous game if you cannot do the above with appropriate cartridges for the dangerous game you intend to take)!

9. Your intent is to shoot a cartridge that you can keep under control and will make the biggest possible diameter exit hole (if angle and distance allows), to let blood out and air in!

10. Make sure your shot is an affective one in that the distance is reasonable to ensure a judicious kill!

11. All dangerous game when shot are still dangerous so "SERVICE" your threat until it is no longer a threat, that means until it won't, can't and doesn't breath nor moves, especially if it is at close quarters, if NOT you might get BIT, CUT UP, STOMPED, BROKE IN HALF, or EATEN!!!

12. If all of the above does not work I recommend (if there is time) a quick prayer that you should have said before you started the hunt.! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: