416

[McCray]

Does Nosler have any plans for a lighter weight 416 bullet?

I have found the 400 grain Partition to be accurate, but a 300-350 grain bullet would be a little more versatile for North American use, as well as African plains game.

Maybe a 325 grain AB ?

 

[McCray]

BTT

 

[NOSLER]

It has been discussed. Trying to find the right combination of weight and penetration is the question.

So the question really for shooters is, what weight bullet? We can do the rest..

 

[todbartell]

I totally agree. A 325 gr. AccuBond would be a great load for those shooters who chase elk, moose, and bear in NA with their 416's. :grin:

I fear a 350 gr. Partition would have a low BC and shed velocity quite fast past 200 yards. but the 350 gr. Speer Mag-Tip has worked well for me in my Ruger No1 416 rem :wink: moose don't seem to like it :lol:

 

[FOTIS]

I totally agree. A 325 gr. AccuBond would be a great load for those shooters who chase elk, moose, and bear in NA with their 416's. :grin:

I fear a 350 gr. Partition would have a low BC and shed velocity quite fast past 200 yards. but the 350 gr. Speer Mag-Tip has worked well for me in my Ruger No1 416 rem :wink: moose don't seem to like it :lol:

I thoroughly concur with you! We need a 320-325 AccuBond with a high BC. I am tired of all these low BC bullets for the 416's. I like to use mine for elk. I do not get to Africa that often :wink:

 

[FOTIS]

Are you listening Nosler?

 

[McCray]

Hmmm, maybe I need to spread the word.

I know that the 416 has fairly modest following, but then again, Nosler wouldn't have much competition with a lighter bullet.

I know Barnes makes (or made) some 300-325 versions, but some of us like lead cores! :lol:

 

[GeorgeS]

Guys, the .416 market is pretty small, but there are already light-for-caliber .416" bullets out there:
Swift already makes a 350gr. A-Frame, NorthFork makes a 325gr. bullet, Barnes makes 350gr. and 400gr. Triple Shocks, GS Custom makes the 330gr. HV and the 300gr. HP, and Lost River Ballistic Technology makes a 350gr. J36.

Some of those are high-BC types.

George[/list]

 

[McCray]

What I think most of us have in mind are lighter than 350 grains.

That leaves the NorthFork, which is a great bullet but sleek it ain't. And GS, who still needs to live down their reputation for horrible service.

I think Lost River may of made a 325 at one time also. I also think they required a second morgage to purchase though. :roll:

I am just a fan of the 416 bore and would like to see more folks buy rifles chambered in 416 Remington or Rigby and put them to work.

 

[todbartell]

the Speer 350 gr. Mag-Tip is one hell of a bullet for the price, but sleek she ain't! :wink:

 

[Will]

The 416 bullet is a very small market as the present Nosler version is difficult to find sometimes, but if was me I'd like to see a tough 400 gr. solid, with a flat-ish nose like a Speer AGS solid, but cheaper!

I won't hold my breath!

 

[art2africa]

Woodleigh has their high BC (.425) 340gr bullet but they're scarce sometimes. I too would like to see a 325 to 340gr Nosler, and for a very competetive price.

 

[FOTIS]

Guys, the .416 market is pretty small, but there are already light-for-caliber .416" bullets out there:
Swift already makes a 350gr. A-Frame, NorthFork makes a 325gr. bullet, Barnes makes 350gr. and 400gr. Triple Shocks, GS Custom makes the 330gr. HV and the 300gr. HP, and Lost River Ballistic Technology makes a 350gr. J36.

Some of those are high-BC types.

George[/list]

More variety could not hurt! :wink:

 

[GeorgeS]

I suggest you guys use your "elephant crushers" on big game, and use something like a .338 Win. Mag. :twisted: for elk (one of "God's Chosen Cartridges", along with the .30-06 and .375H&H).

George
P.S. If you want a multitude of bullet choices, pick a .30 caliber. :grin:

 

[McCray]

For me the "BC" isn't the point (bad pun) but lighter weight and higher velocity is.

If you take the 2.8-ish case length of the Remington from the 3.60 maximum magazine length you have less than .8 inches available for a long graceful taper. I found some pictures of the old Jensen (pre-Lost River) 335 grain J36. It had a fairly blunt shape, capped by a "nylon nipple".

Really the only advantage of the plastic tip may be to prevent battery of the bullet while in the magazine. But that's what sells so I suspect we're stuck with it.

If you want to use only 400 grain bullets in your 416...do! :grin: But don't be so quick to "hrrumph" other choices.

 

[FOTIS]

I suggest you guys use your "elephant crushers" on big game, and use something like a .338 Win. Mag. :twisted: for elk (one of "God's Chosen Cartridges", along with the .30-06 and .375H&H).

George
P.S. If you want a multitude of bullet choices, pick a .30 caliber. :grin:

338 Win Mag?????

 

[GeorgeS]

Yeah, well that's how you feel about the .30-06. What did you use on that elk you just shot? 8)

George

 

[FOTIS]

Yeah, well that's how you feel about the .30-06. What did you use on that elk you just shot? 8)

George

Stop confusing the issue with facts. The '06 I can live with. The 338....urgh!

 

[GeorgeS]

Yeah, and hypocrite is a Greek word. :lol:

Signed,
An unabashed fan of the .30-06, .338, and .375H&H (plus the .17HMR, .17 Mach IV, .17 Remington, .22LR, .223, .22-250, .243AI, .25-06, .270, 7mmSTW, .30-06, .300Wby, and .470 Capstick) :grin:

 

[FOTIS]

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