Low recoiling loads for the 250 Savage?

[dakotaelkslayer]

Guys, looking for bullet suggestions for reloading low recoil rounds for the 250 Savage. Yes, from what I read, the caliber is already low recoiling, but really looking for a powder puff for my child. Would you download Nosler 100gr. Ballistic Tips, or would you try, Sierra, I think, 87grainers?

Thanks,

Jim

 

[FOTIS]

Try 30-32 gr of H4895

 

[Luv2Hunt]

If you really want a cream puff load you could load the old 75 grain fp designed for the old 25-20 using imr4198 going from 16.0 min up to 18.0 max grains. This according to Speer's manual. A very low recoiling plinker load.

 

[SJB358]

Try 30-32 gr of H4895

Fotis nailed my response..

 

[dakotaelkslayer]

Fotis...with what bullet is that powder charge for? Forgot to add, this will be for deer hunting.

Jim

 

[cloverleaf]

My load is a 75 Gr Hornady V-max over 40 gr. of 4350. Only about 3000fps but scary accurate. If you cant find a V-max the standard 75 Grnrs should work too. Decent recoil pad if theres room and some hearing protection and that might do the trick. If you have to use a nosler Ive also loaded the 85 gr. CT. Sorry I havent experimentessed with the charge weights much. They were "middle of the road to high end charges from Dads old Speer manual. These two just shoot so well there isnt much need to experiment. CL

 

[cloverleaf]

OOPs, sorry- didnt see you were looking at specific bullet weights. Havent played with 87's in 20 years and they were just some loads some one gave me. Must not have been memorable. I really cant speak to how low you could go with 100 Grnrs. My load is 38 Gr of 4350 or 35 Gr. of 4064. Both about the same in recoil but I'd guess the 4064 felt slightly less. My rifle is quite heavy though. CL

 

[Oldtrader3]

I use the 85 grain Ballistic Tip in my .257 Roberts. It is a terrific bullet and even with full loads, does not have very much recoil. The same load of IMR 4064 (32) grains should work great which also, according to the Sierra manual, is a starting load which will give you 2700 fps. This load should have virtually no recoil anf that bullet should expand normally at that velocity. I normally drive the 85 grain at 3400 fps in the .257 Roberts.

 

[dakotaelkslayer]

Thanks guys!

Jim

 

[FOTIS]

Fotis...with what bullet is that powder charge for? Forgot to add, this will be for deer hunting.

Jim

Cartridge : .250 Savage
Bullet : .257, 87, Sierra SP 1610
Useable Case Capaci: 42.121 grain H2O = 2.735 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.515 inch = 63.88 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4895

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 66 25.60 2210 944 20994 6286 80.8 1.498
-18.0 68 26.24 2262 989 22194 6514 82.1 1.466
-16.0 69 26.88 2315 1035 23443 6740 83.4 1.435
-14.0 71 27.52 2367 1082 24744 6965 84.6 1.405
-12.0 73 28.16 2420 1131 26102 7188 85.8 1.375
-10.0 74 28.80 2472 1181 27531 7408 87.0 1.346
-08.0 76 29.44 2525 1232 29035 7625 88.1 1.318
-06.0 77 30.08 2577 1283 30620 7838 89.2 1.291
-04.0 79 30.72 2630 1336 32288 8048 90.2 1.264
-02.0 81 31.36 2683 1391 34043 8253 91.2 1.238
+00.0 82 32.00 2735 1446 35889 8453 92.2 1.212
+02.0 84 32.64 2788 1502 37832 8647 93.1 1.186
+04.0 86 33.28 2841 1559 39876 8836 93.9 1.156
+06.0 87 33.92 2893 1617 42026 9017 94.7 1.127
+08.0 89 34.56 2945 1676 44288 9192 95.4 1.100
+10.0 91 35.20 2997 1736 46668 9360 96.1 1.074 ! Near Maximum !

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 82 32.00 2818 1535 39159 8636 95.3 1.166
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 82 32.00 2644 1351 32697 8184 88.3 1.258




Cartridge : .250 Savage
Bullet : .257, 100, Nosler BalTip 25100
Useable Case Capaci: 38.913 grain H2O = 2.527 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.515 inch = 63.88 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4895

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 71 25.60 2244 1118 25861 6732 87.5 1.472
-18.0 73 26.24 2297 1171 27391 6953 88.7 1.439
-16.0 75 26.88 2349 1226 29009 7169 89.9 1.405
-14.0 77 27.52 2402 1281 30718 7381 91.0 1.373
-12.0 78 28.16 2455 1338 32522 7588 92.0 1.342
-10.0 80 28.80 2507 1396 34428 7789 93.0 1.312
-08.0 82 29.44 2560 1455 36439 7985 93.9 1.282
-06.0 84 30.08 2612 1515 38562 8173 94.7 1.250
-04.0 86 30.72 2664 1576 40804 8355 95.5 1.217
-02.0 87 31.36 2717 1639 43170 8529 96.2 1.185
+00.0 89 32.00 2768 1702 45668 8694 96.9 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 91 32.64 2820 1766 48306 8851 97.5 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 93 33.28 2871 1831 51092 8999 98.1 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
+06.0 95 33.92 2923 1897 54037 9137 98.5 1.069 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 96 34.56 2974 1963 57150 9264 98.9 1.042 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 98 35.20 3024 2031 60442 9382 99.3 1.017 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 89 32.00 2840 1791 49817 8726 98.8 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 89 32.00 2687 1603 41587 8562 94.1 1.204

 

[dakotaelkslayer]

Thanks for that data! Should be pretty easy to load up a powder puff that will easily take a deer at 150yds.

Jim