Meet my new toy!

[FOTIS]

Kinda sizing down...in a way.

I sold the 22 mag and the 17 HMR and I got this. Reloadable and fun to shoot!



17 Hornet.

.17 Hornet Superformance Varmint

The .17 Hornet loaded with a 20 grain bullet at 3650 fps, performs significant better than .22 Hornet loaded with a 35 grain or 45 grain bullet. At 300 yards, a 35 grain .22 Hornet bullet will be travelling at about 1126 ft/s, (99 ft/lbs of energy). A 20 grain .17 Hornet bullet at 300 yards will be travelling almost than twice as fast, 2122 ft/s, with more than twice the energy (200 ft/lbs). At 300 yards a 45 grain .22 Hornet performs slightly better at 300 yards (127 ft/lbs of energy), but the .17 Hornet still has it beat by a large margin.

 

[nvbroncrider]

Interesting. Looks like fun. I might still have to side with the 223 as I like the extra mass.

 

[FOTIS]

I also have 2 223's......

 

[jmad_81]

SWEET!!!!

 

[Mortis]

I'll be awaiting a range report with interest.

 

[JD338]

Fotis,

Cool buddy. Can't wait to hear how she shoots.

JD338

 

[Ridgerunner665]

How loud is it?

 

[FOTIS]

Have not shot it yet

 

[muleman]

Fotis,
Congrats on the new gopher gun! The 17Hornet is high on my list as well - I'm looking to get a Ruger 77/17 Predator. I have Hornaday's #9 arriving on Monday and would be glad to share the load info for the 17 Hornet - Just let me know.

Scott

 

[FOTIS]

Thank you Scott

 

[cloverleaf]

There you go! You better give that thing a test run on a Jack and give us a report. Looks like too much fun to wait for the prairie poodeles this spring. :grin: CL

 

[CatskillCrawler]

Nice rig. This cartridge has always been on my list.

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge : .17 Hornet (Hornady)
Bullet : .172, 20, Hornady V-MAX 21710
Useable Case Capaci: 12.028 grain H2O = 0.781 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.723 inch = 43.76 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 50000 psi, or 344 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

72 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma 200 108.7 12.5 0.81 3693 93.9 50000 6200 0.812 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R910 92.6 9.5 0.61 3670 100.0 50000 5055 0.789 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 110.0 12.5 0.81 3666 91.3 48000 6273 0.807 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207 110.0 11.4 0.74 3640 96.5 46468 5967 0.818 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 95.0 10.5 0.68 3628 97.5 50000 5617 0.810 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227 104.6 10.6 0.69 3628 96.7 50000 5601 0.795 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S053 105.7 10.5 0.68 3620 98.9 50000 5466 0.805 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder- 7 109.8 11.8 0.76 3620 93.4 50000 5814 0.811 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744 96.3 10.0 0.65 3613 93.7 50000 5769 0.800 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D060 96.3 10.0 0.65 3613 93.7 50000 5769 0.800 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110 99.9 9.4 0.61 3605 100.0 50000 5020 0.807 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 110.0 13.1 0.85 3597 86.6 48888 5988 0.812 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227 102.9 10.4 0.68 3586 95.6 50000 5465 0.800 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680 96.9 11.5 0.75 3562 89.2 50000 5618 0.809 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200 108.7 12.2 0.79 3532 84.4 50000 5585 0.811 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S265 100.0 10.2 0.66 3520 98.4 50000 5110 0.823 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 110.0 12.6 0.82 3520 85.0 46540 5823 0.827 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation 108.8 11.7 0.76 3517 86.5 50000 5419 0.809 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120 110.0 11.1 0.72 3515 96.9 43088 5530 0.847
Hodgdon H4198 109.4 11.4 0.74 3512 87.1 50000 5370 0.810 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 110.0 13.1 0.85 3507 83.6 45796 5825 0.836 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10 110.0 13.0 0.84 3506 83.5 45657 5830 0.837 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 109.1 12.9 0.84 3506 82.7 50000 5533 0.817 ! Near Maximum !
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39 110.0 12.5 0.81 3498 92.5 39702 6062 0.875
ADI AR 2205 95.7 10.1 0.65 3494 98.9 50000 4984 0.812 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 110.0 13.3 0.86 3487 83.1 46193 5780 0.835 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 110.0 10.9 0.71 3463 91.1 43221 5492 0.847
ADI AR 2210 110.0 12.6 0.82 3449 81.4 46712 5470 0.837 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 110.0 11.9 0.77 3438 89.4 44094 5428 0.855
Alliant Reloder-10x 110.0 11.5 0.75 3388 87.8 37723 5694 0.901
Accurate 2230 110.0 13.1 0.85 3329 78.5 40915 5329 0.885
Lovex D073.4 110.0 13.1 0.85 3329 78.5 40915 5329 0.885
Ramshot TAC 110.0 13.1 0.85 3301 76.0 40224 5346 0.891
Hodgdon H322 110.0 11.8 0.77 3273 80.4 37264 5345 0.911
Vihtavuori N130 110.0 11.4 0.74 3267 86.7 36746 5178 0.919
Accurate 2015 110.0 11.8 0.76 3266 84.7 34853 5389 0.937
Alliant Reloder-12 110.0 12.4 0.81 3266 81.4 38288 5233 0.907
Somchem S321 110.0 13.1 0.85 3250 75.3 37864 5304 0.915
Lovex D073.5 110.0 13.1 0.85 3243 76.7 36747 5269 0.927
Accurate 2460 110.0 13.1 0.85 3243 76.7 36747 5269 0.927
Winchester 748 110.0 13.1 0.85 3242 74.3 38494 5305 0.909
Vihtavuori N530 110.0 12.3 0.79 3230 74.7 37505 5175 0.916
Hodgdon Benchmark 110.0 12.0 0.78 3216 77.2 38188 4989 0.917
PB Clermont PCL 507 110.0 12.7 0.82 3191 73.6 36420 5117 0.931
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 110.0 11.9 0.77 3173 83.0 32645 5427 0.960
Norma 201 110.0 12.5 0.81 3158 73.8 34183 5107 0.958
IMR 8208 XBR 110.0 12.2 0.79 3152 73.5 35274 4963 0.941
Alliant AR-Comp 110.0 11.8 0.76 3151 82.5 32022 5377 0.968
ADI AR 2206 110.0 12.1 0.78 3120 73.5 36726 4685 0.937
Hodgdon BL-C2 110.0 13.3 0.86 3102 70.1 34007 5057 0.961
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 110.0 12.1 0.78 3093 71.8 35327 4683 0.946
Lovex S060 110.0 11.9 0.77 3090 71.9 35441 4644 0.950
Rottweil R901 110.0 11.6 0.75 3089 76.4 30969 5088 1.009
Hodgdon H4895 110.0 12.2 0.79 3078 69.9 32016 4944 0.979
ADI AR 2206H 110.0 12.2 0.79 3064 69.0 32025 4870 0.981
Somchem S335 110.0 11.9 0.77 3062 78.4 31445 4808 0.986
Norma 202 110.0 12.0 0.78 3052 74.5 30564 4943 0.995
Somchem S341 110.0 13.1 0.85 3052 68.3 34941 4650 0.959
Vihtavuori N133 110.0 11.2 0.72 3038 80.1 30984 4671 0.984
SNPE Vectan SP 9 110.0 12.6 0.82 3031 68.1 32609 4710 0.980
SNPE Vectan SP 7 110.0 13.1 0.85 3012 65.2 33274 4577 0.977
NitroKemia REX 3/Green/36 91.7 5.6 0.36 3001 100.0 50000 2804 0.861 ! Near Maximum !
NitroKemia REX 2/Yellow/32 91.0 5.3 0.34 2987 100.0 50000 2773 0.859 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 110.0 13.0 0.84 2985 64.1 32999 4512 0.982
NitroKemia REX 1/Red/28 91.3 5.4 0.35 2973 100.0 50000 2786 0.856 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 110.0 12.3 0.80 2969 72.4 29262 4748 1.013
Vihtavuori N140 110.0 12.0 0.77 2964 73.5 29499 4622 1.009
Accurate 2520 110.0 12.6 0.81 2957 70.0 28354 4816 1.027
Lovex D073.6 110.0 12.6 0.81 2957 70.0 28354 4816 1.027
IMR 3031 110.0 11.4 0.74 2949 72.1 27356 4838 1.037
IMR 4895 110.0 12.2 0.79 2943 65.1 28638 4685 1.026
Rottweil R902 110.0 11.8 0.76 2913 68.9 27389 4559 1.048
Alliant Reloder-15 110.0 12.2 0.79 2903 63.8 28188 4524 1.036
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 110.0 12.2 0.79 2903 63.8 28188 4524 1.036
Raufoss RA11 110.0 12.2 0.79 2903 63.8 28188 4524 1.036
ADI AR 2208 110.0 11.8 0.77 2885 64.5 29266 4272 1.020
Norma 203B 110.0 12.2 0.79 2883 64.0 27554 4507 1.045
Hodgdon VARGET 110.0 11.8 0.76 2874 64.3 28954 4247 1.024
IMR 4320 110.0 12.0 0.78 2872 63.0 29505 4192 1.025
Lovex S062 110.0 11.9 0.77 2865 67.0 26373 4474 1.061
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 110.0 12.3 0.80 2829 57.5 30569 3819 1.021
IMR 4064 110.0 11.5 0.75 2822 63.6 27203 4155 1.056
Ramshot BigGame 110.0 12.6 0.82 2795 59.7 27202 4172 1.062
Accurate 2495 110.0 11.5 0.75 2794 71.1 21229 4846 1.135
Hodgdon H380 110.0 12.5 0.81 2794 59.7 26668 4208 1.066
SNPE Vectan SP 11 110.0 12.6 0.82 2789 59.6 27084 4152 1.064
IMR 4007 SSC 110.0 12.4 0.80 2743 56.4 27058 3894 1.071
Norma 203 old 110.0 12.3 0.80 2727 61.1 23841 4256 1.109
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 110.0 12.1 0.79 2725 57.6 27272 3754 1.069
Somchem S355 110.0 11.9 0.77 2721 61.5 23710 4150 1.112
Vihtavuori N135 110.0 11.1 0.72 2702 68.8 22292 4164 1.134
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 99.9 5.5 0.36 2698 100.0 50000 2176 0.920 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 110.0 12.6 0.82 2676 55.9 26957 3605 1.084
Winchester 760 110.0 12.9 0.84 2662 50.8 25822 3704 1.097
Hodgdon H414 110.0 12.9 0.84 2662 50.8 25822 3704 1.097
Alliant Reloder-17 110.0 12.8 0.83 2651 51.6 25286 3680 1.106
Rottweil R903 110.0 12.1 0.78 2639 58.7 22213 4003 1.143
Rottweil R907 110.0 12.0 0.78 2637 54.2 24279 3678 1.118
Vihtavuori N550 110.0 12.5 0.81 2603 53.2 22785 3768 1.144
Lovex S065 110.0 11.9 0.77 2592 55.4 22297 3685 1.152
Vihtavuori N150 110.0 11.5 0.75 2555 59.6 21166 3649 1.174
IMR 4350 110.0 12.1 0.79 2552 50.5 23231 3333 1.145
Accurate 4064 110.0 11.4 0.74 2546 61.7 17952 4095 1.227
Norma 204 110.0 12.6 0.82 2520 45.9 23710 3183 1.146
Lovex S070 110.0 12.1 0.78 2508 51.1 20979 3489 1.184
Norma URP 110.0 12.1 0.78 2505 49.9 21151 3405 1.183
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 110.0 12.1 0.78 2504 49.9 21134 3401 1.183
Hodgdon H4350 110.0 11.9 0.77 2499 49.2 21943 3206 1.172
Ramshot Hunter 110.0 12.6 0.82 2489 46.9 21851 3246 1.178
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 110.0 12.4 0.80 2454 47.3 21426 3204 1.187
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 110.0 12.2 0.79 2426 43.9 21321 2975 1.194
Raufoss RA4 110.0 12.2 0.79 2426 43.9 21321 2975 1.194
Rottweil R904 110.0 12.0 0.78 2421 44.5 21193 2936 1.196
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 110.0 11.8 0.76 2402 48.9 19838 3033 1.222
ADI AR 2209 110.0 12.1 0.79 2384 41.7 20842 2824 1.209
Somchem S361 110.0 13.0 0.84 2372 43.6 21340 2863 1.207
Alliant Reloder-19 110.0 12.2 0.79 2370 42.0 19861 2870 1.229
Somchem S365 110.0 12.1 0.79 2348 45.4 18772 2978 1.251
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 110.0 12.2 0.79 2344 41.6 19473 2801 1.240
IMR TrailBoss 110.0 4.1 0.27 2313 100.0 28736 1734 1.126
ADI AS 25 BP 110.0 4.1 0.27 2313 100.0 28736 1734 1.126
IMR 4831 110.0 11.7 0.76 2313 45.8 17413 2968 1.282
Winchester Supreme 780 110.0 12.9 0.83 2289 40.1 20473 2618 1.238
Hodgdon H4831 SC 110.0 12.3 0.80 2281 38.5 19612 2563 1.250
Somchem S385 110.0 12.3 0.80 2248 41.1 17515 2724 1.295
Accurate 4350 110.0 11.7 0.76 2232 42.6 16220 2861 1.320
ADI AR 2213 110.0 12.3 0.80 2231 35.5 18866 2439 1.274
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 11.7 0.76 2218 40.0 17409 2461 1.303
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 12.5 0.81 2214 34.3 18870 2389 1.277
Norma MRP 110.0 12.7 0.82 2189 35.0 17459 2491 1.311
Vihtavuori N560 110.0 12.5 0.81 2183 33.6 17336 2421 1.312
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 11.9 0.77 2183 36.6 17349 2367 1.311
Raufoss RA15 110.0 12.3 0.80 2176 35.3 16874 2451 1.324
Alliant Reloder-22 110.0 12.3 0.80 2176 35.3 16874 2451 1.324
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 12.3 0.80 2176 35.3 16874 2451 1.324
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 110.0 12.4 0.81 2162 34.2 17549 2279 1.316
Rottweil R905 110.0 12.1 0.78 2132 34.2 16531 2299 1.340
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 12.1 0.78 2118 37.3 16175 2277 1.353
Winchester WXR 110.0 12.1 0.78 2116 34.2 15659 2324 1.364
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 13.0 0.84 2089 30.4 16525 2203 1.355
IMR 7828 110.0 11.9 0.77 2083 32.0 15920 2135 1.364
ADI AP 2214 110.0 12.7 0.82 2024 30.0 16550 1943 1.372
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 12.1 0.79 2021 32.3 14586 2085 1.415
Ramshot Magnum 110.0 13.1 0.85 1969 27.8 15919 1885 1.429
SNPE Vectan SP 12 110.0 13.0 0.84 1965 27.8 15785 1879 1.434
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.0 13.0 0.84 1960 27.6 15724 1868 1.437
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 12.1 0.78 1914 28.2 14183 1752 1.455
Lovex S071 110.0 11.5 0.75 1892 32.6 12074 1968 1.518
Accurate 3100 110.0 11.5 0.75 1892 32.6 12074 1968 1.518
Norma MRP 2 110.0 12.2 0.79 1878 26.8 12801 1797 1.503
Lovex D100 110.0 13.1 0.85 1821 24.3 13857 1561 1.532
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 12.3 0.79 1814 25.7 12255 1627 1.544
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 12.9 0.83 1811 22.0 12826 1600 1.556
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 12.1 0.78 1809 26.0 11960 1655 1.553
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 13.0 0.84 1794 22.1 13384 1495 1.552
Alliant Reloder 33 110.0 13.4 0.87 1774 21.5 12807 1533 1.574
ADI AR 2218 110.0 13.0 0.84 1727 19.7 12564 1380 1.597
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 12.4 0.80 1667 19.0 11121 1309 1.669
Hodgdon H870 110.0 12.6 0.82 1665 20.4 10764 1353 1.688
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 13.0 0.84 1637 19.3 10987 1262 1.694
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 12.5 0.81 1583 19.6 9903 1204 1.765
NC A3502 ,test only 110.0 11.9 0.77 1565 15.9 10265 1022 1.741
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 12.5 0.81 1546 18.6 9566 1137 1.797
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0 12.9 0.84 1537 16.6 9272 1191 1.800
Accurate 8700 110.0 12.5 0.81 1523 18.0 9628 1069 1.806
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 110.0 11.9 0.77 1518 15.9 9483 998 1.802
Alliant Reloder-50 110.0 13.2 0.85 1515 16.1 9452 1115 1.808
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 13.1 0.85 1489 16.4 9461 1034 1.829
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 110.0 11.9 0.77 1168 8.3 6634 509 2.200

 

[SJB358]

Cool rifle Fotis. That little 17 seems like a great little varminter. Heard they are very accurate as well.

 

[FOTIS]

This is a recent test of the same savage I got

The best part is with 5 grains of blue dot you get no noise no recoil and 2500 fps...same as a 17 HMR

 

[SJB358]

Very cool Fotis! Might have a use for the Nosler .17 cal bullets now! Ha. Even though my big paws tend to fumble them little slugs!

 

[FOTIS]

AHHH You get use to them

 

[cloverleaf]

STOP IT! I think I want one,,,,, If its anything like the HMR the price of .22 Hornet ammo will be going up soon. CL

 

[FOTIS]

I can get 700 full power loads from a pound of Lil gun

 

[SJB358]

I can get 700 full power loads from a pound of Lil gun

Now that is sounding cool!